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supergauntlet | 6 years ago

> literally a supercar for 55k~.

Sorry but this isn't accurate at all. It's an electric muscle car. It goes fast in a straight line and that's it. It can't corner, it can't sustain the acceleration for long periods of time due to overheating (which is completely reasonable - it wasn't designed for that), it's heavy as hell. It's just really really good at flooring it from a standstill or low speed, cruising, and highway acceleration (50 mph to 90 mph).

This isn't a knock on any Tesla, but they're grand tourers at best. Certainly not a supercar. You can't compare these with something that can actually corner at all.

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zaroth|6 years ago

This is a fully stock (even tires) Tesla Model 3P running Laguna Seca in 1:46.1 at the end of a long day of racing BMWs. Just for fun the driver wanted to take his Telsa out, and his boss is riding shotgun. [1]

The production EV record is held by a non-stock TM3P (upgraded suspension, brakes, and tires) at 1:37.5 [2].

By comparison, here are a list of Laguna Seca records [3].

[1] - https://youtu.be/_DZSMxrHyHo

[2] - https://youtu.be/D1MDCPk-7Yw

[3] - https://i.imgsafe.org/7d/7d96bea0ab.png

supergauntlet|6 years ago

This is proving my point. Look at the lap times on Laguna.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988

Most of the stuff around the 1:45-1:47 mark is a hot hatch, a grand tourer, or a muscle car.

Seriously, you gotta understand, I'm super hyped for the electric GT series with the Model S to take off, but these are not supercars. They're comparable to an M series BMW or a nice muscle car, which is fine.

lazerpants|6 years ago

From the Motor Trend TM3P track test drive:

You'll kill me for saying it, but this sport sedan has the same toss and catch that makes the best front-drive hot hatches such a joy to hustle—bolstered by no-joke instant horsepower and the predictability of vectoring all-wheel drive.

supergauntlet|6 years ago

Hot hatches aren't supercars!

The instant acceleration and drag strip performance means it's closer to something like a Dodge Demon than a Ferrari 488. That's OK, it's just not realistic to say it's something it's not.

lexs|6 years ago

Rimac would be the supercar equivalent for EVs I guess