[throw20102010]

It might be misleading, but it's not uncommon. Apple MacBook Pros have thermal throttled at high loads for the past several years. It has throttled for so long that reviewers were surprised that the latest version seems to be using a decent thermal paste and throttles much less.

So if Apple got away with it for years on computers that mostly sold for over $2k, then I think the RPi foundation will probably get away with it on a $35 board.

[the_pwner224]

If Apple can get away with it then the RPi will also get away with it, but it is still a highly deceptive and fraudulent practice.

I spent $2000 on a XPS 15 and peripherals two years ago; if I had known about the thermal throttling I would not have purchased it. Dell literally robbed me of a thousand dollars - had I known that all the 'ultrabook'-style laptops had throttling issues, I would have bought a cheaper and sturdier and higher-specced gaming laptop which beats the XPS in every category except battery life and Thunderbolt. Instead, I spent more and got a substantially worse product.

Collectively laptop manufacturers have defrauded people to the tune of hundreds of millions (even billions?) of dollars. That's not OK.

[dangus]

All portable laptops throttle. What we are vaguely talking about is a firmware bug in the 2018 MacBook Pro i9 that was patched within the first week of release.

It's only a problem if throttling takes them below the advertised base clock under normal conditions. There is absolutely nothing deceptive about this.

A gaming laptop is not really a laptop at all by comparison. They still get less than 4 hours of battery life under load, they're an inch or more thick, they're heavy. Many of them do not fit in backpacks. Gaming laptops are essentially designed for plugged in operation.

I'm a little confused at what's "sturdier" about a gaming laptop as well. Did you break your XPS 15 physically? Gaming laptops have tons of flex and plastic-ness, see MSI.

What benchmark did Dell promise you exactly? Dell didn't rob you of anything. Your own unrealistic expectations did.

[girvo]

Whereas I am aware of thermal throttling issues across most thin-and-light laptops, and kept that in mind when purchasing it. I was not defrauded. Perhaps though, I'm more sensitive to it, as I used to write my own throttling scripts for my weird AMD APU "netbook" years ago.

[dangus]

Just to clarify here, all laptops of reasonably small size throttle. Throttling below base clock is the only problem, and it was only a temporary one that was patched out with new firmware on 2018 MacBook Pros.

[qplex]

I guess the reasonable size is relative.

None of my laptops do this.

The thermal design is basically broken if the CPU overheats and has to throttle to prevent a fire.