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Ask YC: Feedback on an alternative to TinyURL

4 points| crystalarchives | 18 years ago |oneryng.com | reply

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[+] pierrefar|18 years ago|reply
It's quite a long URL, so not really "tiny".

The idea itself has been tried several times before. CompuServe (or was that AOL?) was one of the first to have keyword-based navigation. A few years ago, I met an entrepreneur in London, UK, who was building a company through which you create a unique number for yourself, and that gets associated with all your contact details - sort of like a phone number but to all your contact details (a bit like a LinkedIn public profile I guess). There are other variations.

Personally, I find this way of navigation weird and I don't like it. Also, the domain name your service uses (oneryng.com) doesn't really brand the service in a useful way (but I do love the domain name!).

Also, what's your unique selling proposition? I can't see one!

Apologies if I seem a bit blunt. Please correct me if I misunderstood something.

[+] crystalarchives|18 years ago|reply
No, not at all blunt, this is exactly what I'm looking for. The unique selling proposition is that I plan on shifting this idea to the mobile market, since typing long URLs on a numpad is complete torture, and am just fleshing out the idea for now as a proof of concept.

Thanks for the background information, it's very helpful. Any good suggestions for a short, succinct domain name that's to the point?

[+] donal|18 years ago|reply
I wouldn't use it just because the keyphrase is mutable. It is bad enough that TinyURL obscures the destination, but with the possibility for the destination changing without even the submitters knowledge makes the service completely untrustworthy.

Maybe I'm missing something...

[+] crystalarchives|18 years ago|reply
Yeah, the idea is for people who want an immutable keyphrase to contact me for some sort of contract where they ask for a specified amount of time for the keyphrase to stay constant for some reasonable sum of money.
[+] crystalarchives|18 years ago|reply
I'm most interested in whether the idea is easy to understand, any feedback is very much appreciated!
[+] rksprst|18 years ago|reply
The idea is easy to understand to anyone that knows that tinyurl is. Otherwise, they might be confused. I think a screenshot of the address bar showing a long url and your short "keyphrase" one would help explain your site to your users. I also don't particularly like the design (e.g. the font, black background, blue links...) I'd suggest a simple white page, something like the google homepage.
[+] xlnt|18 years ago|reply
you can overwrite people's keyphrases, and when you hit "back" to the main page the captcha thing isn't visible.

also captchas suck.

[+] crystalarchives|18 years ago|reply
I know, I hate captchas myself, but I don't want spammers to hammer the server with porn sites or anything like that.