[rphlx]

> people vote

The "high taxation is not slavery, because you voted" argument lost all merit once net recipients of the welfare state became able to out-vote its net contributors - which has already happened in the US.

> make sure old people don't starve

If only that were what the extent of what social security actually does. But it's not properly asset tested. So broke millenials are paying a ton of payroll taxes, which are - after substantial adminsitrative overhead - transferred to their elders who almost always have significantly more assets than they do, and often don't even need a transfer at all, let alone as their only way of avoiding starvation.

[wpietri]

One, your numbers for "already happened in the US" are at best erroneous. The question of who gets what from labor is complicated, but the one thing for sure is that there are no easy answers, because labor itself is deeply social.