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theBobBob | 6 years ago

This option is brought up alot and while cost is probably one consideration I think that the main problem is for when (not if) one of the launches has a rapid unscheduled disassembly as they call it, and basically become becomes a large dirty bomb.

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bipson|6 years ago

Also, what happens to the stuff we toss into space? People still seem to make the same mistake our ancestors did regarding tossing stuff into the ocean.

To be more precise: achieving a velocity high enough to e.g. detonate on the surface of the sun (in particular carrying tons of nuclear waste) won't be cheap for a long time. [1]

Stuff we "toss out there" would probably just keep floating in an uncontrolled (in the long run) earth bound orbit and might come back at some point.

[1] https://youtu.be/uNS6VKNXY6s

TeMPOraL|6 years ago

Trying to toss radioactive waste into the Sun would be a ridiculous waste of fuel. To do that, you have to cancel out Earth's orbital velocty; that's 30 km/s of ∆v (or execute some very clever gravity assists).

What you'd want to do is to shoot it out into an orbit around the Sun that's slightly lower or higher than Earth's. The chance of it somehow returning to Earth is so low that the Sun will go out before it happens.

Still, the whole concept is wasteful and dangerous anyway. For one, as others mentioned, a launch failure would mean large-scale contamination on the planet. Two, you can safely store this waste on Earth for many orders of magnitude less money and work.

> People still seem to make the same mistake our ancestors did regarding tossing stuff into the ocean.

“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” Throwing something out into orbit around the Sun isn't going to be a problem, like, ever.

jackweirdy|6 years ago

Lunar orbit seems much more worth investigating than solar orbit

_nalply|6 years ago

I would try to toss if at all right into the Sun.

jackweirdy|6 years ago

This makes me think of this video of a 1984 demonstration of a freight train deliberately crashing directly into a container of nuclear material

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY446h4pZdc

Skye|6 years ago

It seems to be a diesel locomotive pulling passenger carriages (almost certainly ones that were obsolete at the time).

It's still a pretty impressive way to show how strong they are...