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TelmoMenezes | 6 years ago

> What's uploaded can maximally be a fork of your mind, not your actual mind

>> Why? What makes you you?

> My history until now.

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> that fork starts to diverge within that new environment as it adapts to it, and won't recognizable for long, so it's not even a good idea for conservation.

>> Maybe you are already being emulated, how would you know?

> It doesn't matter.

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You seem to be arguing against yourself.

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deltron3030|6 years ago

>You seem to be arguing against yourself.

No, you don't understand that the "you" that is the sum of your experience and history, and the "you" of a clone are different you's. If you die and clone lives on, you won't wake up the next day in the body of the clone, your history has come to an end. Your copy is only like you, but not you.

It doesn't matter if you're emulated, because the same would happen to the emulation, a fork of a emulation won't mean that the emulation would wake up in the body of the fork.

TelmoMenezes|6 years ago

> No, you don't understand that the "you" that is the sum of your experience and history, and the "you" of a clone are different you's.

In what sense are they different? Consider that the molecules that make up a person's body are completely replaced over the course of n years. One decade ago you were a different chunk of matter, but the same person.

> Your copy is only like you, but not you.

Ok, let's assume you are right. The copy will still be 100% convinced that it is me. How do I know this is not happening to me already, that I am not a "fake" already?

> It doesn't matter if you're emulated, because the same would happen to the emulation, a fork of a emulation won't mean that the emulation would wake up in the body of the fork.

Organisms wake up and feel whatever they feel. An organism with an exact copy of my memories and processes will be 100% convinced that it is "me". This could already be happening to me, how could I tell? I am just repeating trivial arguments from an ongoing philosophical discussion that has been going on for millennia.

You propose to solve this discussion with authoritative proclamations, but I would rather read your arguments.