I see it has listed a fruit tree in my yard... Is there a way to revoke that? I've given permission to my neighbors to pick as long as they knock, not to randoms.
Around 2000-2001 I rented a house in the small town where I grew up, and there was a plum tree in the yard. I mentioned to the landlord that I had been approached by the neighborhood kids asking if they could harvest from the tree, and the landlord said he had no problem with it if I didn't mind (that was his arrangement with the last renter).
Kudos to the kids for asking first, and at first I didn't mind, but they ended up climbing on my pickup truck parked near the tree (the only place to park it) and dented the hood and roof in several places. After I showed them the damage and asked them not to climb on my truck, I had a gaggle of neighborhood moms beating my door down to tell me how much of a prick I was to forbid their children from climbing my truck to get to the tree. I ended up having to call the cops to have them removed.
When the landlord found out I called the cops on them, he took their side and asked me to find another place to live (I wasn't under a lease, it was a month to month rental agreement).
I'm a homeowner now, in a house that is not in a neighborhood specifically so I can avoid incidents where people feel they have a right to invade my space and damage my property. Again, I'd have no problem if I had a fruit tree in my yard today and people walking past wanted to get a bite to eat as long as they are courteous about it, but mob mentality is not something I'm comfortable with.
I wasn’t sure whether this was the group, but based in your comment I think it is.
I browsed through their Portland map at length and was disappointed to see how many listings there were in private property where the commenters were clearly not the owners.
This is trespassing, and theft. My landlord years back planted an Asian pear and I don’t think she ever got a single piece of fruit because someone cleared the whole tree two years running. It was by the porch, up a decent flight of steps, not on the sidewalk.
Don’t be an asshole. Don’t do this, and don’t put up with people inciting others to theft.
If you notice a neighbor isn’t picking their fruit at all, talk to City Fruit or a similar group, and they will approach them about getting permission to glean. Then everybody wins, including the local food bank.
You could try their feedback email [0], but it looks like most of the data is being sourced from other datasets, so your problem likely lies with one of them.
Before you end up stealing someone's private property, introduce yourself to the property owner and ask for permission. If the property owner changes, you have to go through the process again. Rights aren't grandfathered in.
This seems to be beyond what many people are capable of. This app is going to be shut down.
There's something about the concept of private property that gets people properly riled up. It's mine, my preciousss!
What if you live in a monarchy and all the land and all the trees belong to the king? Do you have moral/ethical right to steal fruit from the king's trees?
There are very few private trees around where I am. This app lists a lot of trees in public spaces around me - trees I never gave a second thought before. I'm grateful for it.
Someone should do this for tech meetups with free pizza and beer. I practically lived on those my first year in the bay area. If you're smart you can eat for free every night of the week in exchange for listening to a few boring lightning talks and recruiter pitches.
Terrible nutrition though, most def not how to run your body optimally.
Freeganing can save you bank.
Hit up the nicer grocery stores: Whole Foods, Trader Joes, Lunardi's, Nob Hill. Find out their schedules for throwing away perfectly good food because the arbitrary/conservative date on it "expired." One of my friends frequently scores expensive cuts of filet mignon steaks that they just toss (I'm vegetarian when it would increase demand for animal ag).
You don't need to waste time pretending to be interested in Meetups.
Also, if you go in the back of Starbucks and other chains that serve food, maybe an hour before closing time, you can score healthy vittles. (The give my friend all the black bean burritos and chicken salads he can carry.)
Personally, I'd be worried about eating fruit from trees in dense urban areas or near highways due to pollution and also pollution from landscape management (i.e., pesticides).
He's living for a year on only food he planted or forages from naturally growing sources. He's in Orlando, Florida.
I find him inspirational. I'm now growing tomatoes, herbs, and salad greens in my windowsill and I've foraged several pounds of fruit and herbs from near my home -- and I live in Manhattan!
I can't believe how delicious and plentiful they are.
OMG I laid the groundwork for the Falling Fruit mobile app, but I had to step aside and it was all so long ago! It has come along leaps and bounds since then.
The browser app has always been way ahead and the programmers behind the whole idea are super competent.
Especially considering the API costs of using Google maps now. I'm assuming they're getting free credits, but the list price per 1k loads is $7 so hopefully they're getting a lot for free.
"Wir gendern nicht, weil wir bei der Umerziehung des Menschen durch Sprachmanipulation nicht mitmachen wollen und weil die Mehrheit von euch dies laut Umfrage auch so sieht."
The "About" section [0] of the site has the bio's of the people involved with the project. From there, there is a link to a free download to a 166 page PDF of David Craft's book on Urban Foraging [1].
Today I've read an article about how Spanish farmers let fruit rot on the tree, since prices are so low that they can't cover the cost of labour.
Someone asked on the comments why they don't just let people go and grab as much fruit as they want, if it's going to waste anyway. The answer might be 'because regulations'. If you got a farm and people pick up fruit for free, does it count as unpaid labour? Could you get sued? People rather not take the risk. Not to mention the implications of allowing random people to freely roam your property, etc.
On my side of the ocean, people will gladly _pay_ to pick their own fruit (and pay even more to the ice cream stand by the parking lot on their way out). Just google u-pick.
In the UK there are farms that let you go round picking strawberries or other fruits. And people pay for the experience. I'm not sure that regulations come in to it.
I think that 'street fruit' is a great resource. There are many fruit trees in neighborhoods that are under harvested, with piles of 'ground fruit.' I've always played by the rule that if I could reach it from the sidewalk, and it was overflowing, I would take some. For sure though, don't harm the fruit-producing plant, or any property surrounding it, because that's not considerate.
There is a documentary I watched called "dive" a few years back which had a guy feeding his entire family with food he could get from the dumpsters of grocery stores. And it was not just unhealthy stuff. Fruits which were almost ripe like bananas are thrown out. The food wastage gives a good opportunity for free meals if we know where to look.
In my city it is full of dumpster diving spots that seems to be imported from trashwiki(?).
Three of four fruit trees in a sea of trash compactors, electronic waste disposals and residential trash. I can filter on a specific category but I can't seem to filter "everything but a specific category" to get rid of the freegan stuff.
I'm going to be the cynic here and assign a high probability that eventually the insiders running the site will keep the really good spots to themselves, e.g., make it so that information about the really good spots is visible to the user id or IP address that uploaded the information and to the insiders, but not to the general public.
In the 1994, the last time I had information about them, the employees of the San Francisco Food Bank felt free to take any of the donations with the result that the clients of the Food Bank got whatever the employees did not want.
Yeah, that's like "Facebook keeping all the good friends for itself." It's kinda hard to "hide a tree" when they live multiple decades and people can keep independent databases. Not really something worth trying to hide imo. Perhaps technologically feasible on a day-to-day level, but if it were ever discovered, the scandal that would ensue would be disastrous to the whole project. And the whole point is to connect more mouths to more fruits, hoarding is actually counterproductive. That's wild about the Food Bank -- similar things probably happen in general for the "people who keep score for the game tend to have a higher score" thing. I wonder sometimes about the creators of those dating apps, and if they are also skimming top applicants.
Got to say this is an impressively dense map, there's plenty of options within 1 mile of my current location. Seems dangerous to use this info though, who knows what kinds of pesticides are sprayed on those fruit trees for example.
I'm more concerned about contamination by heavy metals from car exhaust and other pollutants. The metals like nickel, cadmium and lead end up in the soil and then in the fruits and you can't wash it away. Not sure about fruit trees but I know it's a concern for tomatoes grown in urban context.
We were foraging for blackberries along a popular walking trail once, and an older man gave me a bit of advice I'll never forget: don't pick the lower ones- thems the ones dogs pee on.
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[+] [-] morganvachon|6 years ago|reply
Kudos to the kids for asking first, and at first I didn't mind, but they ended up climbing on my pickup truck parked near the tree (the only place to park it) and dented the hood and roof in several places. After I showed them the damage and asked them not to climb on my truck, I had a gaggle of neighborhood moms beating my door down to tell me how much of a prick I was to forbid their children from climbing my truck to get to the tree. I ended up having to call the cops to have them removed.
When the landlord found out I called the cops on them, he took their side and asked me to find another place to live (I wasn't under a lease, it was a month to month rental agreement).
I'm a homeowner now, in a house that is not in a neighborhood specifically so I can avoid incidents where people feel they have a right to invade my space and damage my property. Again, I'd have no problem if I had a fruit tree in my yard today and people walking past wanted to get a bite to eat as long as they are courteous about it, but mob mentality is not something I'm comfortable with.
[+] [-] hinkley|6 years ago|reply
I browsed through their Portland map at length and was disappointed to see how many listings there were in private property where the commenters were clearly not the owners.
This is trespassing, and theft. My landlord years back planted an Asian pear and I don’t think she ever got a single piece of fruit because someone cleared the whole tree two years running. It was by the porch, up a decent flight of steps, not on the sidewalk.
Don’t be an asshole. Don’t do this, and don’t put up with people inciting others to theft.
If you notice a neighbor isn’t picking their fruit at all, talk to City Fruit or a similar group, and they will approach them about getting permission to glean. Then everybody wins, including the local food bank.
[+] [-] JTbane|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] shakna|6 years ago|reply
[0] [email protected]
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[+] [-] Dowwie|6 years ago|reply
This seems to be beyond what many people are capable of. This app is going to be shut down.
[+] [-] tasuki|6 years ago|reply
What if you live in a monarchy and all the land and all the trees belong to the king? Do you have moral/ethical right to steal fruit from the king's trees?
There are very few private trees around where I am. This app lists a lot of trees in public spaces around me - trees I never gave a second thought before. I'm grateful for it.
> This app is going to be shut down.
Pray tell more. By whom?
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[+] [-] dfeojm-zlib|6 years ago|reply
Freeganing can save you bank.
Hit up the nicer grocery stores: Whole Foods, Trader Joes, Lunardi's, Nob Hill. Find out their schedules for throwing away perfectly good food because the arbitrary/conservative date on it "expired." One of my friends frequently scores expensive cuts of filet mignon steaks that they just toss (I'm vegetarian when it would increase demand for animal ag).
You don't need to waste time pretending to be interested in Meetups.
Also, if you go in the back of Starbucks and other chains that serve food, maybe an hour before closing time, you can score healthy vittles. (The give my friend all the black bean burritos and chicken salads he can carry.)
Personally, I'd be worried about eating fruit from trees in dense urban areas or near highways due to pollution and also pollution from landscape management (i.e., pesticides).
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[+] [-] spodek|6 years ago|reply
He's living for a year on only food he planted or forages from naturally growing sources. He's in Orlando, Florida.
I find him inspirational. I'm now growing tomatoes, herbs, and salad greens in my windowsill and I've foraged several pounds of fruit and herbs from near my home -- and I live in Manhattan!
I can't believe how delicious and plentiful they are.
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[+] [-] acak|6 years ago|reply
The browser app has always been way ahead and the programmers behind the whole idea are super competent.
https://github.com/falling-fruit/falling-fruit-mobile.git
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[+] [-] softwarelimits|6 years ago|reply
Also I found this one:
"Wir gendern nicht, weil wir bei der Umerziehung des Menschen durch Sprachmanipulation nicht mitmachen wollen und weil die Mehrheit von euch dies laut Umfrage auch so sieht."
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[0] https://fallingfruit.org/about?c=forager%2Cfreegan&locale=en
[1] https://fallingfruit.org/docs/David%20Craft%20-%20Urban%20Fo...
[+] [-] angarg12|6 years ago|reply
Someone asked on the comments why they don't just let people go and grab as much fruit as they want, if it's going to waste anyway. The answer might be 'because regulations'. If you got a farm and people pick up fruit for free, does it count as unpaid labour? Could you get sued? People rather not take the risk. Not to mention the implications of allowing random people to freely roam your property, etc.
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Plus, lawsuits for trivial stuff are not common outside the USA.
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Three of four fruit trees in a sea of trash compactors, electronic waste disposals and residential trash. I can filter on a specific category but I can't seem to filter "everything but a specific category" to get rid of the freegan stuff.
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In the 1994, the last time I had information about them, the employees of the San Francisco Food Bank felt free to take any of the donations with the result that the clients of the Food Bank got whatever the employees did not want.
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I do appreciate the efforts of the team behind this map. Found a strawberry patch only a couple of miles from my place.
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https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/metals-contaminan...
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