[rosser]

The trope that wait times are materially worse in single-payer systems is precisely that: a trope. You do not have to dig hard to find examples of wait-times measured in months to get diagnostic procedures scheduled, and where I live — the San Francisco Bay Area — the wait time for an initial consultation with, e.g., a dermatologist has been about the same, for as long as I've lived here. I know doctors who work in hospitals who've had to wait months for a breast cancer scan.

A thing that sucks in both systems can not legitimately be used to argue against only one of them.

[archie2]

That's because California is a terribly run state, and one third of your population is on Medi-Cal. You literally have the same problems as Canada.

[FireBeyond]

Here's me in Washington where I had a severely injured wrist after a car accident, was advised to get PT immediately...

... and had no PT within the county with a <10 week wait time.

I guess we're close to Canada though, so maybe it's contagious?

[rosser]

O...kay?

So, how about all of the not-California parts of the US that have the same kinds of problems (which is, last I checked, more or less "all of them")?

Because, the thing is, only one of my examples was, you know, from California.