[aibrahem]

So does the US, I've yet to hear a valid argument on why the US is a better citizen on the global stage than China.

Domistically a very weak argument could be made that the US doesn't violate the rights of their own citizens as bad as China, but between FISA courts, the NSA and programs like PRISM (which is more than a decade old now), this argument barely makes sense.

[klingonopera]

Well, for one, whoever's running the US gets changed after two terms, sometimes it's a pity, sometimes it couldn't happen fast enough.

But in my opinion, it's definitely better than having the same person running things for who-knows how long, regardless of the integrity of that person.

[KaoruAoiShiho]

A couple dozen people change at the top but literally everyone else stays on, including all the criminals in military and intelligence. It's an absolute joke.

[sgt]

There's still democratic oversight in the US to a much larger degree, and also many US companies are not playing ball in terms of encryption backdoors etc. Apple is one example.

[lonelappde]

Does it suck that the US persecutes a few thousand people via abuse of sigint? Yes. Does it suck more that Chinese Communist Part terrorizes millions? Yes.

Does the US persecute Black people worse than CCP persecutes anyone, for non-"privacy" reasons? Maybe.