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bairrd | 6 years ago

There's a difference between holding diverging opinions, and defending someone who had sex with a sex trafficed minor, right? If we don't uphold at least that as a society, what are we?

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TeMPOraL|6 years ago

Who was accused of having sex with a sex trafficked minor. Stallman only pointed out that the Minsky may have not known about the trafficking angle, but apparently there's witness testimony saying the act of sex never happened.

I get that the concept of assumption of innocence is something long-forgotten on the Internet, but can we at least discern between correcting the language to ensure that mob accusations are accurate, and wholesale defense of a (presumed) act?

freedomben|6 years ago

> There's a difference between holding diverging opinions, and defending someone who had sex with a sex trafficed minor, right? If we don't uphold at least that as a society, what are we?

Is your problem with the person who had the sex, or the person defending them? The former I agree is a huge problem, the latter seems highly dangerous and I very much disagree with you. It would be impossible to get any sort of due process or fair trial if even defending you makes you toxic, unemployable, and evil. What if you are innocent? Imagine trying to find a lawyer...

What about me? I'm not defending RMS' behavior, but I could see how someone would think I was. Do I deserve to be able to work? Do my kids deserve a home and food on the table?

mvc|6 years ago

Was rms defending Minsky in court?

megous|6 years ago

Allegedly? I think it's fine to try to defend people against allegations. Though they are better and worse ways to do it.

Some people like Greg Benford claimed the sex didn't happen. I think that's a better way to go about it. Say you were present at the time and provide counter-claim.

Now, there doesn't seem to be proof either way.

dependenttypes|6 years ago

Do you believe that certain people (such as the ones accused of having sex with a sex trafficed person) should not be allowed to have attorneys?

odessacubbage|6 years ago

glad to know kids will stop getting fucked when all the bad opinions go away. thank you for all your hard work.