[moccachino]

I'm not completely informed of everything ICE does but I believe this is the agency that has been separating children from their parents, caging people for days (weeks?) on end in conditions where they can't even lie down, and even had small children die in their custody [1].

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48375144

[derision]

A fair criticism, but let's not forget these facilities and practices were opened during the Obama administration. People like to point to this as a point of criticism against Trump.

[moccachino]

If that were true it would be even more terrible. I did find it a bit hard to believe so I checked, and your claim seems to be based on a misunderstanding, according to https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/us/politics/fact-check-fa....

[pnako]

Those facilities and practices were started by Bill Clinton in the 90s.

[mieseratte]

Those people are also free to self-deport at any time. They're locked in cages insofar as they choose to be there.

[SolaceQuantum]

Actually are they allowed to leave an ICE facility once they've been put into the encampments? For example, when a citizen youth was put into an encampmet for suspicion of being in the country illegally, I don't believe they were ever provided the option to be released.

[empath75]

We're talking about children, and no that's not true.

[tzs]

> They know it is illegal and they do it anyway, and bring their children along; do you not harbor any moral outrage against those parents for subjecting their children to this possibility?

No, I do not harbor any moral outrage for parents who bring their children with them when fleeing from a place where gang violence and organized crime have made it very unsafe. For a lot of these families, getting the kids to a safer place was the reason they left.

[SolaceQuantum]

I was under the impression that the many of those immigrating are actually entirely legally going through the refugee/asylum process so the whole claim that they are illegal is moot. They are legal.