So for Graal we have the situation that Graal EE (Enterprise Edition) has auto-vectorization. However, its not in the open-source version as Oracle holds it back. The implementation in this issue is however provided by Twitter.
I think Graal and Graal EE on Oracle Cloud is one of the smartest product moves out of Oracle in .... idk ... forever?
However, it seems like a knifes edge to walk on. If Graal CE gets uptake, are there enough compiler folks at Redhat, Azul, Google, et. al. to shrink (or overtake) the Graal EE performance edge.
Graal CE must be “good enough” to get people hooked that they then want to hold their nose enough to engage with Oracle (through Cloud or license).
Maybe the management and visualization advantages are enough? I don’t think so though.
I also don’t think it will pay off (despite the incredible technical achievement that Graal is).
I was just talking with an ex-Oracle SMB sales rep, and they left because they would persuade businesses off SQL Server on technical merits, only to see their clients steamrolled by the Compliance Department a year later.
Larry is, 75 years old or so? I think recent Microsoft history can show goodwill can be created quickly, but it must be done from the top down.
True! I'm very happy about the general open-source culture in the graal project. They are in general very open for ideas and always support! That is very cool!
pjmlp|6 years ago
So quite the opposite of holding it back.
amalter|6 years ago
However, it seems like a knifes edge to walk on. If Graal CE gets uptake, are there enough compiler folks at Redhat, Azul, Google, et. al. to shrink (or overtake) the Graal EE performance edge.
Graal CE must be “good enough” to get people hooked that they then want to hold their nose enough to engage with Oracle (through Cloud or license).
Maybe the management and visualization advantages are enough? I don’t think so though.
I also don’t think it will pay off (despite the incredible technical achievement that Graal is).
I was just talking with an ex-Oracle SMB sales rep, and they left because they would persuade businesses off SQL Server on technical merits, only to see their clients steamrolled by the Compliance Department a year later.
Larry is, 75 years old or so? I think recent Microsoft history can show goodwill can be created quickly, but it must be done from the top down.
pgrulich|6 years ago
StreamBright|6 years ago