[tdewitt]

I think it summarizes the problem of 4chan. It doesn't say anywhere that the media tool the bait and the ADL has an old blog post making it clear that, at the time, it was a hoax. Now the ADL has reclassified it as an actual symbol of hate by alt-right groups and white supremacists.

I think the article paints a picture of the rise of hate groups and the appropriation of a commomly used and innocuous hand gesture. Hell, as a diver, I now have to think about the fact that some Bad Actors have taken what I use to indicate that I'm fine and turned it into "I support genocide."

[scrumper]

Ugh no please don't think about it! I'm a diver too and had a lovely time teaching my little blonde haired, blue eyed kids all the various hand signals, including this one.

So how about this still means "OK" if you're a normal person and you're not proudly flashing it at the end of a stiff arm in a crowd of skinheads?

Doesn't context count at all?

Edit: I'm not shouting at you, just generally in despair. Tone is more like, rolling my eyes with you. And I'm not sure why you're being downvoted.

[tdewitt]

Because I'm selfish, diving was one of my first thoughts. "I use this all the time!" Context only counts for a time. My wife reminded men of one of her favorite childhood books that has "queer" in the title. It wasn't a slur, it was a synonym for "odd." Then came the 90s and later and "queer" was mostly used as a slur. Then to LGBTQ community took it as their own. It's nearly off limits for the rst of us because saying "how queer" has to be followed by "I mean odd, not a mean way to reference homosexuals." (Is that even the right way to reference people now? I can't track all the variants of binary/sis/etc.)

[beckingz]

Did you not get the memo? PADI is a hate organization now.