Xinjiang Re-Education Camps

[mef51]

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[dang]

Users flagged it.

This topic has been discussed very often and very repetitively, which eventually makes a story off topic for HN, at least until significant new information emerges.

That is not to say that it isn't important; quite the contrary.

[mef51]

The international response to this has been bizarre, and several majority Muslim countries consider this an 'achievement':

"In July 2019, 22 countries including U.K., Germany, France, Spain, Canada, Japan and Australia signed a joint letter to the UN Human Rights Council urging China to close the camps in Xinjiang.[27][110] In reaction to this, 37 countries including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, UAE, Sudan, Angola, Algeria, Nigeria, DRC, North Korea, Russia, Venezuela, Philippines, Myanmar, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Palestine have signed a joint letter to the UNHRC praising China's "remarkable achievements in Xinjiang."[0]

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps#Re...

[chibg10]

I find it pretty remarkable (and scary) that the international community is much more comfortable calling out the USA on human rights abuses than it is China (e.g. the world pretty uniformly opposed moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem).

It goes to show how much you can accomplish foreign policy wise by being completely intolerant of any criticism (assuming you are armed with a sufficiently large stick and a people unified enough to wield it consistently).

[ralph84]

Many of those majority Muslim countries have been or are currently in civil wars between Muslims. None of them would be considered bastions of human rights in how they treat their own Muslim population. It's not bizarre at all that they value good relations with China over the rights of random Muslims.

[pavlov]

Another aspect of this campaign is the razing of mosques and Muslim holy sites in Xinjiang: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/07/revealed-new-e...

[mef51]

vice did a 30 minute piece on this craziness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ

[forkLding]

Interestingly enough, no Muslim country is officially criticizing China, they're all on the officially supporting side.

[CharlesColeman]

The PRC has been working very hard to stymie any criticism of the camps, and it isn't afraid to bully countries to achieve its diplomatic aims:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/world/asia/china-xinjiang...

> “Many, many governments are looking the other way and self-censoring on the issue of Xinjiang,” said Daniel R. Russel, the Obama administration’s assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs. “Beijing is notoriously prickly about its self-declared ‘core interests,’ and few countries are willing to put the economic benefits of good relations with China at risk — let alone find themselves on the receiving end of Chinese retaliation.”

> When countries do criticize China, they tend to do so in a group, seemingly as a way to diffuse and lessen possible retribution.

[hrdwdmrbl]

Don't miss the video of the blindfolded and handcuffed men (prisoners) being let on to a train car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYoeJ5U7cQ

[analyst74]

One thing I never hear people discuss, is the best way to combat terrorism.

So, let's agree that reeducation camps are terrible and inhumane, what is a good solution?

[hrdwdmrbl]

One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. See Hong Kong, the rebel alliance, or almost every national revolution in any country ever. China doesn't have a terrorist problem.

[hrdwdmrbl]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

[guilhas]

Even with all the possible 're-education' camps, USA is still the country with more incarcerated. Even though they have much less population.

[azinman2]

So therefore it’s ok that China is taking random citizens and arbitrarily brainwashing them against their will?

[hrdwdmrbl]

Thank you 50 cent troll