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greyfade | 6 years ago

I've been bouncing around the idea of a fully decentralized end-to-end encrypted chat protocol for exactly this reason, but I've been afraid to work on it for precisely the reason this thread is being discussed. I know that if my name were attached to the project, I'd be facing all kinds of unwelcome scrutiny from the government and news agencies. I'd lose the very privacy I want to maintain by designing privacy-protecting software.

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Unklejoe|6 years ago

Check out Matrix. Sounds like what you’re describing.

greyfade|6 years ago

There's a lot I'm not explaining, in part because I don't (yet) understand crypto well enough to know if my idea even makes sense, let alone is feasible.

Matrix is close, but not what I'm describing. It's far more centralized than I'd like to see.

questionasked|6 years ago

What's the advantage of decentralisation? Is it really a problem to have centralised servers if they're just storing dumb encrypted blobs?

dheera|6 years ago

Governments can force the people who own the servers to stop.

dualboot|6 years ago

Signal is pretty solid.

https://signal.org/

greyfade|6 years ago

Maybe it is, but it's not the decentralized replacement for Discord and Teams that I envision.

lxjm|6 years ago

XMPP with OTR is exactly this. Facebook messager used to be compatible with XMPP.

greyfade|6 years ago

Not exactly. I rather dislike XMPP's design, and what I'd like to see is something not only decentralized (relying at most on a DHT seed), but supporting group chats with trivially-expirable keys. My limited exposure to OTR suggests it only reliably supports one-on-one exchanges.