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moggie2 | 6 years ago

Title is kinda misleading. A more accurate but longer one is like 'China state media journalist accused Apple approving app that aid violent protesters from evading police"

Which similarly, it also happens on the other part of the world? E.g) US? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/nyregion/waze-nypd-locati... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/01/28/382013185...

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mattparcher|6 years ago

IANAL, but “evade law enforcement” seems inaccurate.

> HKMAP helps residents comply with the wishes of law enforcement (who communicate their demands by colored flags quickly raised in the dark).

> …[the app] doesn't contravene any Hong Kong law that I am aware of. This app helps answer questions like "will I get shot with a bean bag round if I come out of this MTR station, because the police raised a colored flag I can't see".

—Maciej Ceglowski, the American who runs the Pinboard bookmarking service, who has been in Hong Kong for a while now, to follow the protests.

Thread about how the app works, and how it keeps non-protesters safe: https://twitter.com/pinboard/status/1179233936582565888

About the use of tear gas and bean bag rounds: https://twitter.com/pinboard/status/1181790019943452675

godelski|6 years ago

> This app helps answer questions like "will I get shot with a bean bag round if I come out of this MTR station..."

Helpful and sassy comment.

reaperducer|6 years ago

It's not surprising that two different organizations would have two different headlines. That's common sense, not a conspiracy.

La1n|6 years ago

NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/world/asia/china-apple-nb... Even the same organisation. Still not a conspiracy but as a non US citizen it's clear that a lot of the US media doesn't treat China the same as the US. I am sure it's like that in every country, but that makes it difficult to find objective news, or at least news that doesn't have an emotional charge to it.

sushid|6 years ago

Uh, the Chinese state media journalist is speaking on behalf of the government. Do you think the journalists there build their career by being a maverick known for investigative journalism?

secraetomani|6 years ago

There is a big difference.

US is not gonna ban Google or Waze.

China might actually ban Apple tomorrow. There are no courts to appeal. There is no retort. Just the decision of one man.

kwizzt|6 years ago

One man? If you are just trying to sound dramatic, sure. However, I'd urge that you go and actually read more about how CCP works and the actual reaction of Chinese people on Weibo and other Chinese social media. The reaction to NBA and Hong Kong is not merely the government's manipulation, tho I'm sure there are some being done.

When people see the news and make a judgement, it's often times the judgement the media want you to make. I'll give you another video about Hong Kong protesters for a different perspective: https://youtu.be/ZPYuGYLesx0

This video by no means represents all of the protesters, but I hope people here can see the same event from different angles.

Edit: fix typo

godelski|6 years ago

How?

A lot of Chinese people have iPhones. Are you just going to hack all of them or replace all of them over night?

moggie2|6 years ago

As you said, China MIGHT. Which mean it has not happen yet to deserve the accusation.

hitekker|6 years ago

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ummonk|6 years ago

That the protesters are engaging in violence is an established fact.