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Why Fiber Is Vastly Superior to Cable and 5G

52 points| DiabloD3 | 6 years ago |eff.org | reply

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[+] gnode|6 years ago|reply
The article is correct that fiber connections can provide a higher bitrate than cable and 5G, but it fails to explain why that makes it a better social or economic proposition.

My 200Mb/s DOCSIS cable connection is well below the theoretical maximum, and is good enough for streaming 8K video, downloading a Linux distro in seconds, downloading a game in a few minutes, etc. The social effect of having this, versus 0.1Mb/s connectivity I had before is huge, but greater bandwidth would not greatly change my experience.

If the aim is to improve the lives of as many people as possible, it takes more to justify a more expensive project, than just: it will be faster.

My primary concern as a politician would be which solution can be affordable and adequate for the largest number of people who do not currently have something adequate.

[+] bsder|6 years ago|reply
Every order of magnitude change in upload speed has spawned a whole host of new applications to take advantage of it.

Upload is the key--not download.

[+] Isamu|6 years ago|reply
Perhaps the title should be "Why policymakers should support fiber over cable and 5G". This is about public policy, it's not a technical discussion.
[+] EricE|6 years ago|reply
If it's a decision between wired or wireless, wired is always better. Period.

Luckily I have FIOS but my parents are stuck on really crappy DSL or mediocre cable.

[+] oarla|6 years ago|reply
Why is there no mention of the initial cost to lay down fiber? I expect that would be quite significant compared to wireless links and I am not even thinking of the costs that might be associated with maintenance of the fibers once it is laid down and operational.
[+] jkoberg|6 years ago|reply
The dirty secret of 5G is that they have to run fiber to every street corner anyway just to backhaul the very-short-range base stations.

For a marginal additional cost, you can run it down the street to every house, and consumers aren't forced into a artificial-scarcity "purchase by the gigabyte" scheme run by wireless carriers.

[+] rkwasny|6 years ago|reply
It's not about speed, it's about reliability. We have a backup 5G connection for an office in central London, when it rains heavily it just goes down.

Cable/Fibre does not have this problem.

[+] bifrost|6 years ago|reply
This is such a superficial and terrible article, its like if you gave an intern an outline and they could only use wikipedia to complete it.

While I appreciate what they're trying to do, this comes off as ridiculous to those of us who actually have built or build parts of the internet.

The TLDR of this article is "With current technology you can move more bits with light and electrons than you can with RF", which is likely to stay true for the forseeable future.

What they left out is that most fiber service providers use PON, which doesn't give you the top end of what your physical fiber can do.

Here's a handy article about it: https://www.electronicdesign.com/what-s-difference-between/w...

[+] sp332|6 years ago|reply
The article was co-written by EFF's senior legislative counsel. It's intended to be a position paper to influence policy, not a technical deep dive.
[+] lisptw102019|6 years ago|reply
My facepalm is that a group like the EFF would likely want to point out the vulnerabilities in RF and 5G from a snooping standpoint.

My experience with all three techs from an Outside Plant aspect, tells me that Fiber probably would be the toughest for an outside party to snoop on (i.e. biggest physical access to network requirements)

[+] jkoberg|6 years ago|reply
You don't get that there's the equivalent of multiple entire RF spectrums in every fiber ?

Wireless last-mile always seemed like a false argument against municipal fiber on behalf of very profitable wireless carriers