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drchewbacca | 6 years ago

Does anyone know a good comparison of the cost of Nuclear with Solar + Batteries? I feel like just comparing against panels alone isn't really helpful.

I would imagine that if we really cared about climate change the best approach would be maximal effort on all fronts. So build renewables as fast as we can and build nuclear as fast as we can. That would be the quickest way to get carbon emissions to 0.

We could always spend the latter half of the century decommissioning the nuclear again.

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stjohnswarts|6 years ago

Current battery technology is not up to what you are talking about. No one can come up with a price because we don't have the technology to store that much offline energy to handle the variability. Anyone who says we do -right now- is lying to you. We would need a factor of 100X energy storage density to what we have right now to even be close.

jes5199|6 years ago

people who end up on opposite sides of this argument are usually talking about two different things:

1) Do we build exactly enough solar to meet our average power needs but have to build several-month-long battery storage capacity to bring summer sun into the winter,

2) Or do we build enough surplus solar so that we can run 100% load for 24 hours on a cloudy winter solstice, and just need big enough batteries to get through the longest night of the year, and under every other circumstance just be wildly over-provisioned

#1 is probably impossible with current technology. But our solar installations already produce surplus power during the summer that we don't use ("curtailment"), even at today's prices. It doesn't seem out of the question that we'd just build much more absurd extra solar to make up for our lack of storage. And then maybe we'd find a use for the excess summer electricity, like desalination or hydrogen production or bitcoin mining. It's technically possible, but it does increase costs - twice as expensive? three times? That might still be economically viable, if solar costs continue to fall or if the cost of natural gas spikes upward