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notus | 6 years ago

It's also a combination of drug management. Almost all competitive athletes at a high level use some type of steroids in off seasons.

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cik|6 years ago

It's not even competitive athletes. It's folks doing the local race.

Years ago, when I was an avid cyclist, I was turned off my first local race, a meaningless city race. Three guys, and two girls were doping in the parking lot. To this day I have yet to be at a single race where people aren't doping prior.

mixmastamyk|6 years ago

What does “doping in the parking lot” mean exactly?

dman|6 years ago

I do not understand the mindset where you would cheat for essentially no payoff.

bilbo0s|6 years ago

>Almost all competitive athletes at a high level use some type of steroids

Wow. Surprised someone's willing to "go there" so to speak.

Yeah, a lot of these athletes are doping. And, well, let's just say that I think Mary is putting forth a narrative that renders herself in the best light possible. Everyone knows what NOP is about vis-a-vis drug use. Mary knew too, which tells you a lot about her.

But I also think this can be a cautionary tale for young athletes. (Though I'm not naive. I realize that very few will pay it any heed in the run up to Olympic trials.)

gamblor956|6 years ago

Everybody knows now that the NOP was about managed doping.

That wasn't known back then when she started the program in 2012. Per the NYT article on the NOP, Salazar didn't actually begin the illegally doping NOP athletes until late 2010 or 2011 (though he had begun experimenting on himself and his son by then). [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/sports/nike-oregon-projec...]

jmull|6 years ago

Is this speculation, an accusation, an inference or what?

I guess I'm saying: you need a source for this or at least a cogent argument or STFU.