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Oslo's Plan to Decarbonize Its Port

52 points| pseudolus | 6 years ago |citylab.com | reply

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[+] vinni2|6 years ago|reply
All this decarbonization would pale in comparison to all the emissions from the oil that Norway refused to stop or slow down extracting. Norwegian government continues to issue new drilling licenses.
[+] soperj|6 years ago|reply
If Norway stops extracting oil then oil price goes up which just means producers in other countries start producing more which brings the price back down. We don't have an oil supply problem, we have an oil demand problem.
[+] KorematsuFred|6 years ago|reply
World needs oil. Poor people in India and Namibia need Oil to carry out their basic needs like getting electricity and receiving medical supplies. If Norway stops producing Oil it will take away bread from mouth of these poor people. Of course unless rest of the developed world is ready to pay a 20% tax penalty to subsidize renewable energy in poorer parts of the world.
[+] krobbn|6 years ago|reply
Norway taxes petroleum extraction at 78% effective rate as well which primarily goes into the sovereign wealth fund, but also helps subsidize renewables. Norway has also invested heavily in trying to keep the rainforests from being torn down. They're at least trying something, and trying to encourage their own population to become greener, through things like little to no taxes on electric vehicle use, public transit, and so forth.
[+] timwaagh|6 years ago|reply
Vikings gotta live too, those Teslas don't grow on trees.
[+] dorian-graph|6 years ago|reply
And they're trying to get oil elsewhere in the world, like off the coast of Australia.
[+] ericvanular|6 years ago|reply
An interesting conversation around decarbonization in ports is going on at https://collective.energy/topic/29/green-hydrogen-from-sea-w...!
[+] mrpopo|6 years ago|reply
> Is nuclear propulsion for ships a viable option?

Yes. There are half a dozen countries with mature viable nuclear naval propulsion technology, another half dozen in development. Hundreds of vessels already built.

The fuel cell technology is several decades away from being available to power ships, and we don't have decades to decarbonize the economy. The Arctic ocean is gonna be totally melted for the first time in human history in about a decade or so, and from there on the feedback loops are gonna make the race against global warming even more hopeless than it already is.

Go nuclear.

[+] nso|6 years ago|reply
Off topic; does anyone know if collective.energy uses a ready-made forum software, or if it's custom made? I really liked it.