Soup Map – 277 European Soups

[iagooar]

I can't believe it hasn't listed the Polish "żur" (or "żurek"). It is a soup made of soured rye flour, served in a bread bowl. Utterly delicious. For me it is, by far, the best traditional Polish dish (and soup).

Here you can read more about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Slavic_fermented_cereal_s...

Edit: I found it on their website, but it's missing on the map: https://www.tasteatlas.com/zurek

Edit2: Thanks for pointing out that I can click on the number directly. Not too intuitive, but zurek is there!

[Majestic121]

It's on the map, but you have to click on the little 20 in the upper right of Warsaw

[rgovostes]

Came here to post the same thing. Żurek is phenomenal and Polish cuisine is among the best, and most underrated.

Recipes online say you need to make a fermented starter liquid called zakwas, which is allegedly sold pre-made in Polish grocery stores. But I could not find it for sale online. There are instant żurek mixes on Amazon, though, and a few packets are now on their way.

[felipelemos]

It's in the map for me.

[brokenkebab]

With a few well-known* exceptions it's a very risky idea to attribute any particular dish to a particular country. I'm from Eastern Europe, and can say almost any attribution can and will be disputed here :-) And situation can be farther complicated by the fact that same names are often used for different dishes.

* - And even those are disputed from time to time.

[fimdomeio]

Well I think we could make a list kind of "Falsehoods people believe about culinary".

A dish with the same name can also mean different things in different names. Açorda in Portugal, always has bread, but depending on where in Portugal you are can mean a soup that you pour over a piece of bread or smashed bread with shrimps

[dzhiurgis]

Biriyani, paella and plov is basically same (yet tastes very different).

What I’m interested in is why most soups in Eastern Europe are stock/“bullion” style while in west they are more like goulash/curry/gravy?

[forlorn]

I love it! But in addition of 'Where to eat' I'd like to know 'How to make'.

[Eupolemos]

Maybe I'm wooshing here, but there's a tab called "Recipe" ;)

Edit: Ah - I just noticed, it is only there on some.

[Aardwolf]

Missing lots of very basic but good soups (then again, the search doesn't work well, returning "categories", "events" and "restaurants" rather than soups by keyword):

tomato soup with little meat balls

pumpkin soup

mixed vegetable soup

shrimp soup, fish soup, lobster soup

asparagus cream soup

spinach soup

[pdamoc]

In Romania, we make a clear distinction between Supa, Ciorba and Bors.

Supa (Soup) is the un-soured base, Ciorba is sour (usually soured with lemon) and Bors (Borscht) is soured with an wheat bran based fermented liquid by the same name. :)

[jowdones]

The word "ciorba" comes from Turkish "çorba": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorba

Ciorba arrived on the table of the Romanians on a historical whim, being boiled first in the kettles and boilers of the Sipahi troops of the Ottoman Empire. It was so closely related to the image of the troops of the Ottoman military that the heads of the regiments of the Sipahi were known as "ciorbagii", perhaps because by their tent was always near the canteen, where the best tripe or ram soups were made, flavoured with leaves of mint, added vegetables, pepper and for ornament, parsley.

Tracing the name you can observe with precision the route of the Ottoman conquests. Greeks call it τσορβάς (ţorbas), Bulgarians cook tchorba, a.s.o. I asked some of my Hungarian colleagues if they also have the word in their language and they do... but only designating a single, special type of soup: tripe (in my opinion the quintesence of çorba). The regular word for soup in Hungarian is "leves" and being weirdos, they have another special word for cabbage soup: "lucskos".

[iagooar]

In Poland we have zupa (soup), barszcz (borscht) and flaki (which is similar to your ciorba I think).

[blue11]

Supa has western European etymology, and chorba was the word brought by the Ottomans. Not sure about Romania, but throughout the Balkans the difference in meaning is mostly in the connotation of a degree of sophistication (supa:chorba is as city:village).

[dnh44]

I thought that Ciorba is only soured with lemon when you can’t get fermented cabbage juice? Maybe it depends on the region?

[nkrisc]

I've never had Romanian food but you piqued my interest now.

[eu]

ciorba is also made with sour/fermented milk (chișleag/clabber)

[jevgeni]

Borscht classified as a Ukrainian dish. Good. As it should be.

[aasasd]

Afaik there are at least dozen or two different recipes of borscht in Eastern Europe. In fact, just a map of them and spellings of ‘borschtsch’ would make for an interesting resource.

BTW, borscht was originally made with hogweed, which is where the name comes from. The beetroots variant is a later development, though it has now practically replaced the original.

[iagooar]

Barszcz is one of the most traditional Polish foods as well. I guess it's a slavic thing.

[aquadrop]

I think it's a shared dish between Russia and Ukraine, but Russia already had solyanka on this site :)

[phillc73]

What's your stance on rassolnik?

[severine]

Yummy. It would be great to add a filter to show only the ones that include a detailed recipe, though.

[telesilla]

Also those that can be made vegetarian. So many look delicious and could be prepared with a protein substitute.

[tasssko]

If you are ever in Greece and want a delicious rich soup I reccomend Avgolemono[1].

1. https://www.tasteatlas.com/avgolemono

[aloukissas]

+10000 (super biased) for avgolemono -- one of those foods that I despised as a child but came to love as an adult.

[ben174]

Looks delicious. Seems there's a place in SF that makes it: https://kokkari.com

[MichaelMoser123]

As for Russia they would need to add щи/shchi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shchi

Щи да каша пища наша. Don't know how to translate that one properly:-)

Also there is the wikipedia reference, who would have guessed that soups come in lists? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_soups

[aaaaaar]

It's already on there. Only 2.4 stars though :)

[9nGQluzmnq3M]

Nice idea, but the implementation is not great: many places have multiple soups superimposed, but only one is even shown if you click and there's no way to "expand" a cluster. If you want the full list for a country, you need to browse the pictures by location.

https://www.tasteatlas.com/europe/soups?orderby=location

[saberdancer]

If you click on a number it expands the list.

[Forester06]

Where is the Turkiye's soups. Tarhana Soup is an Anatolian soup.

http://www.turkishfoodandrecipes.com/2009/11/tarhana-soup-ta...

An other Turkiye's soups are here.. http://www.turkishfoodandrecipes.com/search/label/soups

[CSMastermind]

I'm curious how they determine the 'Most Popular'.

[reitoei]

Based on traffic to the site over a period of time, like pretty much every other 'Most Popular' algo.

[twic]

The iconography is a bit variable. London is represented by the arms of the Greater London Council, which were granted in 1966, and which was abolished in 1986.

The soups look good though!

[jansan]

My favorite, the north German "Hochzeitssuppe" (wedding soup) is missing. It even has a Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hochzeitssuppe

Just the best thing you can eat on a rainy cold November day.

[jannes]

It's not missing, the UX is just bad.

Hochzeitssuppe expands if you click on Nudelsuppe while you are at the map's maximum zoom setting.

[anentropic]

I'm hungry now

[CrLf]

I’m not sure many people in Portugal would call “açorda" a soup. The most common variety has the consistency of mashed potatoes and is either a course in itself (when mixed with prawns, for example) or used as a side for meat.

[dmos62]

I think it's fine to consider these overalapping sets. Then we don't have to argue over edge cases.

[JoeAltmaier]

Oh! I thought it would be a map in culinary space of soup varieties. So if wanted a sour winter soup without meat, I'd find a cluster of those somewhere in a 3D space...

[esquire_900]

Very nice product (not just the soups), it's interesting to get a "flavor map" like this , and brings back memories of places once visited!

[pjmlp]

So we got a couple of food chains that are all about soups as main courses and they only manage to find out "Açorda"?

Anyway, nice overview, as starting point.

[pellucidar]

They also think caldo verde was invented after 1935.

[lawlessone]

Might have been able to include Irish Stew, and Coddle for Ireland.

Both are more stews.. but several other things already on this map are more like stews.

[bazzargh]

They're both there, but under Stews. https://www.tasteatlas.com/Stews

...I grew up eating Irish Stew and thought of it more as a soup too