[cremp]

I never heard of NextDNS.

I am appalled.

From their site: https://nextdns.io

> See what's happening on your devices with in-depth Analytics and real-time Logs.

> Protect your kids and control what they can access online.

Their pricing page is also extremely troubling.

> We may adjust this later on based on actual costs at scale, but it will follow this logic.

What the hell is this Mozilla... This is not a company you should be dealing with. They tell you up front that they log and monitor... They also aren't at scale, and have to learn lessons the hard way with outages.

Mozilla is dead to me now.

Edit:

As others have pointed out, Mozilla's own policies: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/DOH-resolver-policy

Transparency Requirements, section 2.

Where on earth is a transparency report for NextDNS? They were started in March, and I would think that Mozilla would check their requirements before giving the 'lets add them.'

[sp332]

If not specifically requested by the user, no data is logged. Some features require some sort of data retention. In that case, our users are given the option, control, and full access on what is logged and for how long.

[core-questions]

> Protect your kids and control what they can access online.

Yes, god forbid some parents would like to have a little bit of control and the ability to protect their children from seeing obscene material when they're too young to handle it.

Evil! Mozilla needs to quash these terrible people! May they burn with Brendan Eich!

[saagarjha]

"Protecting your kids" is often "we log everything and have complete visibility over how people are using our service, and we're willing to share a bit of that with parents to spy on their children". It's a valid concern to have unless there's evidence to the contrary.

[cremp]

I'm not saying that the product doesn't have it's use, but it is not how DoH should work.

I'm trying to bolster the point that they are promoting logs and more importantly, blocking DNS queries.

How can I trust the DoH endpoint if I know they have an active product whose purpose is to log and not give back the requested IP.

[bad_user]

Wow, you're pretty easily upset. Was Mozilla alive for you before this?

Their privacy policy is pretty straightforward: https://nextdns.io/privacy

Not saying this is going to be good, but at least I'm going to withhold judgement until I've got more data.

> They also aren't at scale, and have to learn lessons the hard way with outages.

Is that a reason you're upset about? Is that a certainty? I don't get it.

[thayne]

the monitoring and blocking features are not enabled by default.

The pricing model is certainly troubling though.

[afiori]

> Completely free during the beta, then free up until about 300,000 DNS queries/month — $1.99/month for unlimited queries.

> We may adjust this later on based on actual costs at scale, but it will follow this logic.

>We will accept credit, debit and prepaid cards, PayPal, cryptocurrencies and other popular payment platforms.

In what sense is it troubling? I have never looked at a DNS pricing page before today, but this looks reasonable...