Don't the other generations feel the specter of dread hovering over us? Like you are running on a treadmill as fast as you can and knowing that if you trip or stumble, even a little, it's over and what progress you've made will be undone and you'll end up wandering the streets, muttering to yourself?
Or maybe it's just me?
Among the many things that make me feel ill is that byline. We're painfully aware that we exist to serve "The Economy"- perhaps _that_ is what is making us ill, that we must forever justify our existence in terms of the movements of bits of green paper?
From a prior generation, I think we served you a shit sandwich. I prefer to be optimistic, and believe you guys can work it out, overcome it, and move on. I also tend to be mildly pessimistic and I think tumbrils await my cohort, for the wrongs done to future history: we really did crap in the swimming pool and expect you to learn to swim in it, and then clean it up.
You don't need to serve the economy, just the customers of your employer. Furthermore, even if that's too burdening, in many countries you can still move to the forest and live free of any ties to the economy.
Working longer hours at more jobs just to make ends meet, while the people at the top add more 0’s to their bank account, health care costs rising while income is stagnant or worse. Shouldn’t be that surprising, really, though my comment is an oversimplification.
The “economic impact” being the focus leaves a bad taste in my mouth; it’s the economic impact itself thats making it worse, if not outright causing it.
I once worked in an industry once that wound up forcing long periods of excessive overtime. Think 60+ hour weeks for months on end. And for peanuts (16 to 22 an hour.)
The combined stress resulted in the following issues among the team:
- Employee #1 committed suicide the weekend after valentines day, (work stress led to alcoholism relapse, then everything else fell apart)
- Employee #2 wound up completely throwing out his back (i.e. could not move and had to crawl into his house) because of the bad chair ergonomics.
- Employee #4 had multiple nervous breakdowns, ruining their marriage and setting back their life years.
- Employee #5 relapsed on some bad habits involving opioids.
Of the above 4, 2 were tobacco users and their intake increased substantially during these time periods. This was true of others on the team that didn't fall into these more extreme examples.
But even in those other cases, I saw ruined marriages, slow spirals into bad habits (gambling, drinking, adult clubs, etc.) and overall years taken off peoples life from stress.
So yeah, long hours are no joke.
Edit: I skipped #3 on the list because the way they responded to stress wasn't easy to delineate. (They were however also a smoker and would increase intake under stress)
On the other hand... it's worth noting that #3, when under high workload stress, would become very judgemental, easily offended and prone to rants that would, depending on day, either belong on breitbart or buzzfeed.
Well, it doesn’t serve the interest of those who are trying to make a living to buy the latest Jordan’s for 200$ a pair, live in the most happening part of the city where rent is a premium, and go out every week to the latest trendy restaurants. Of course my experience with my fellow 20 somethings are anecdotal, I believe We are doing this to ourselves. I can buy a house now in a very expensive part of the city and I’m 30. I saved, and most importantly invested, while others were lavish and spent. Yet they want the easy route?
My generation forgot what meant to live in moderation. All the drinking, poor diet from restaurant outings several nights out of the week is not good for health or the wallet which affects the former thing.
> Millennials are sicker due to the state of the economy and their job conditions caused by the economy
> This is bad for the economy
Sorry, but anybody who is still measuring things in terms of "the economy" needs to take a real hard look at themselves in the mirror, and ask why they care more about how many zeros are in their bank account, and less about fellow human beings.
I am all for the "free market", innovation, small businesses, careers, making a profit - but never at the expense of my health, my family's health, or the health of other people.
I think the culture of getting a loan for everything is part of what’s perpetuating the bad economy. You’re giving your money away to the bank to borrow their money while they sit back and do nothing to collect. A little patience and you can have that car or house without paying double the cost and then the banks don’t get your money and it incentivizes other parts of the economy that don’t involve lining the pockets of the already very rich.
I think that's true of a car but unless you live in an area that is not densely populated (and probably won't have much in the way of jobs), then the house part is not true, unless you're willing to live with your parents until you're at least 30.
>A study of banking software demonstrates that the bank does nothing else than adding an amount to the two accounts when they issue a loan. The observation that there appears to be no limit to the amount of credit money that banks can bring into circulation in this way has given rise to the often-heard expression that "Banks are creating money out of thin air".
> Advances [...] have resulted in an addictive but sedentary lifestyle that goes against human design, he said. It disrupts circadian rhythms, lowers exposure to sunshine’s vitamin D and alters how we eat.
You can say that again. I've been living a sedentary, indoors lifestyle my entire life (literally since I got a gameboy pocket at 5 years old) because I grew up in a place where I hated to be outside, but in the past 5 years or so I've come to observe that my mood, my alertness, and my general happiness takes a dive if I don't get enough time outside, even just to take a walk every now and then.
I moved to a new apartment that requires a solid 25 minute walk each direction every day as part of my commute, and I think that's helped a lot to help make things more regular. Winter time sucks because it's almost always dark outside, but still if I work from home for a day I can feel the difference in my body from not having my usual walk.
Even with freezing weather and unshoveled slush on the ground, I still wouldn't give up my daily walk for, say, a car ride. I know I don't have the discipline to stay healthy outside of what's necessary to get to work.
No idea what this article is on about, I don’t know anyone in their 30s who works more slowly because of illness compared to people in 40s 50s. And is illness really worse or just more diagnosed?
It is really funny, everyone here seems to understand that stress at work is bad, and everyone is afraid of getting ill and costs of healthcare. But as soon as someone suggests a similar model that we have here in Europe(government-provided health care, more worker rights, more holidays), everybody loses their mind. People you are sacrificing your health for the owners of the company you are working for, and maybe some top managers.
Working more for less, ending up with more stress, eating genetically modified food, breathing in pollution, taking in constant radiation from wifi and cellular signals...the soft kill is working.
If making a persuasive argument to capitalists regarding government intervention in healthcare, I don’t see how it wouldn’t be advantageous to sell the programs as a way to improve their bottom line. If healthy people get the things they need to be productive, then they are productive and the business benefits. It’s as if these advocates don’t believe in the benefits of the programs they are selling. Do they not believe it will have appreciable effects for the greater economy?
Oh they sure do but i don't think "improve their bottom line" actually affects that many people comparatively and those who it does affect's wealth is relative and not that easily budged by the fact that people with more purchasing power being able to circulate more money, people with better overall health being more productive, etc is better for the economy.
At least not if it has to come from their pocket in any way.
[+] [-] adamwong246|6 years ago|reply
Or maybe it's just me?
Among the many things that make me feel ill is that byline. We're painfully aware that we exist to serve "The Economy"- perhaps _that_ is what is making us ill, that we must forever justify our existence in terms of the movements of bits of green paper?
[+] [-] ggm|6 years ago|reply
We were not kind. We might get what we deserve.
[+] [-] chrisco255|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] cbm-vic-20|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] odkamkfn|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] badpun|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] girvo|6 years ago|reply
The “economic impact” being the focus leaves a bad taste in my mouth; it’s the economic impact itself thats making it worse, if not outright causing it.
[+] [-] to11mtm|6 years ago|reply
I once worked in an industry once that wound up forcing long periods of excessive overtime. Think 60+ hour weeks for months on end. And for peanuts (16 to 22 an hour.)
The combined stress resulted in the following issues among the team:
- Employee #1 committed suicide the weekend after valentines day, (work stress led to alcoholism relapse, then everything else fell apart)
- Employee #2 wound up completely throwing out his back (i.e. could not move and had to crawl into his house) because of the bad chair ergonomics.
- Employee #4 had multiple nervous breakdowns, ruining their marriage and setting back their life years.
- Employee #5 relapsed on some bad habits involving opioids.
Of the above 4, 2 were tobacco users and their intake increased substantially during these time periods. This was true of others on the team that didn't fall into these more extreme examples.
But even in those other cases, I saw ruined marriages, slow spirals into bad habits (gambling, drinking, adult clubs, etc.) and overall years taken off peoples life from stress.
So yeah, long hours are no joke.
Edit: I skipped #3 on the list because the way they responded to stress wasn't easy to delineate. (They were however also a smoker and would increase intake under stress)
On the other hand... it's worth noting that #3, when under high workload stress, would become very judgemental, easily offended and prone to rants that would, depending on day, either belong on breitbart or buzzfeed.
[+] [-] georgeplusplus|6 years ago|reply
My generation forgot what meant to live in moderation. All the drinking, poor diet from restaurant outings several nights out of the week is not good for health or the wallet which affects the former thing.
[+] [-] KnightOfWords|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Thorentis|6 years ago|reply
> This is bad for the economy
Sorry, but anybody who is still measuring things in terms of "the economy" needs to take a real hard look at themselves in the mirror, and ask why they care more about how many zeros are in their bank account, and less about fellow human beings.
I am all for the "free market", innovation, small businesses, careers, making a profit - but never at the expense of my health, my family's health, or the health of other people.
[+] [-] odkamkfn|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] alexfromapex|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] campee|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] 7373737373|6 years ago|reply
Banks do not lend money, but instead newly create credit and money. See https://www.economicsnetwork.ac.uk/archive/starkey_banking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation#Credit_theory_o...
>A study of banking software demonstrates that the bank does nothing else than adding an amount to the two accounts when they issue a loan. The observation that there appears to be no limit to the amount of credit money that banks can bring into circulation in this way has given rise to the often-heard expression that "Banks are creating money out of thin air".
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S105752191...
>This study establishes for the first time empirically that banks individually create money out of nothing.
[+] [-] octokatt|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] throwaway1777|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] helen___keller|6 years ago|reply
You can say that again. I've been living a sedentary, indoors lifestyle my entire life (literally since I got a gameboy pocket at 5 years old) because I grew up in a place where I hated to be outside, but in the past 5 years or so I've come to observe that my mood, my alertness, and my general happiness takes a dive if I don't get enough time outside, even just to take a walk every now and then.
I moved to a new apartment that requires a solid 25 minute walk each direction every day as part of my commute, and I think that's helped a lot to help make things more regular. Winter time sucks because it's almost always dark outside, but still if I work from home for a day I can feel the difference in my body from not having my usual walk.
Even with freezing weather and unshoveled slush on the ground, I still wouldn't give up my daily walk for, say, a car ride. I know I don't have the discipline to stay healthy outside of what's necessary to get to work.
[+] [-] nradov|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] robbywashere_|6 years ago|reply
what a bs bottom line
[+] [-] danharaj|6 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] 7loopscom|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] 8bitsrule|6 years ago|reply
https://www.boredpanda.com/why-do-millennials-want-to-die/
[+] [-] Musaab|6 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] modo_mario|6 years ago|reply
[+] [-] throwawayhhakdl|6 years ago|reply
Not to imply that obesity isn’t driven by mostly the factors described by others here.
[+] [-] mister_hn|6 years ago|reply
I'm vaccinated, no allergies.
Is this maybe related to Gen X Anti-Vaxxers?
[+] [-] 7loopscom|6 years ago|reply
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