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Dating of bones from Indonesia confirm Homo erectus roamed planet for 1.8M years

76 points| alberto_ol | 6 years ago |theguardian.com | reply

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[+] mikorym|6 years ago|reply
I went to the Sterkfontein Caves [1] [2] recently and the most poignant thing for me was the diminutive size of Australopithecus. While larger huminoid species [3] were evolving, our direct (well, disregarding cross breeding) ancestors were tiny. Australopithecus is about the size of a 5 or 6 year old.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterkfontein

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_Humankind

[3] That would be the precursors to Neanderthals and Denisovians.

Edit: The males were somewhat larger. Modern humans do not display the same degree of sexual dimorphism as Australopithecus appears to have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus

[+] Pigo|6 years ago|reply
One thing I've always wondered about these early hominins is whether there was a large enough variety in any of them that we find different races within a species.

Maybe that is a dumb question, or just complex to answer. I've just always wondered because some homo sapiens look wildly different from each other. I know it's because we've spread out so much, and had a long time to do so. But I read things about the denisovans being here or there for a very long span of time. It's hard to imagine that they didn't at least have occasional mutations that lead to interesting features.

[+] seszett|6 years ago|reply
We have the same Australopithecus ancestors as Neanderthals and Denisovans though. The sapiens/neanderthal split is much more recent than that, "only" a few hundred thousand years, while Australopithecus became extinct two million years ago.
[+] Perenti|6 years ago|reply
I wouldn't be surprised if the red hairy people of Australian Aboriginal mythology turn out to be the last stand of Homo erectus, it's just that no fossils have been found yet.
[+] jacobush|6 years ago|reply
I always wonder about troll mythology and Neanderthals...
[+] abc_lisper|6 years ago|reply
Yep, Australian aboriginal mythologies turn out to surprisingly accurate. Lot of their stories have checked out by evidence.
[+] littledorky|6 years ago|reply
Make sense, Java was isolated dead end on the southeastern edge of the Eurasian landmass
[+] account73466|6 years ago|reply
Alternatively, they didn't come from Africa but from Asia.
[+] learnstats2|6 years ago|reply
I'm unclear that the verb 'died out' is helpful to understanding here.

'survived longest' makes more sense - the point is that Homo erectus died out everywhere else much earlier.

[+] akskos|6 years ago|reply
Came for the Java jokes, was not disappointed
[+] alvatar|6 years ago|reply
I almost die in Java too.
[+] rifaqat|6 years ago|reply
eventually we all will die, hoping that Java will die.
[+] shabeepk|6 years ago|reply
It would have been better to die in Java 2.
[+] Pigo|6 years ago|reply
Wow, that is an annoying website to visit. I would rather have downloaded a text file than wade through all of that.

The first ad takes up half of my screen, and then I had to see a fullscreen amazon preview. When I tried to click the cookie policy it thought I clicked an ad that led to a pop-up.

[+] mothsonasloth|6 years ago|reply
Did they get garbage collected though?
[+] vectorEQ|6 years ago|reply
i think that is was scientists are doing now :D
[+] louis8799|6 years ago|reply
If they had not died, they would have told us to stay away from Java.