Security is distinct from privacy. The four mainstream browsers - Chrome, Firefox, Edge and Safari - have the most secure software, regardless of their producers' business models and data hygiene.
> The four mainstream browsers - Chrome, Firefox, Edge and Safari - have the most secure software
I disagree that they are "the most secure" browsers, let alone software. They fail to isolate remote scripts properly; that people were capable of executing timing attacks against the CPU (Specter et.al.) shows that they are not really very secure.
Browsers which don't execute Javascript and advanced CSS (Lynx being one extreme example) are going to be much more secure by default.
No, it's not. Security is not a goal in itself, it can not be, security is only about guaranteeing other goals, there is no security absent all other goals. What it means for software to be insecure is that it doesn't ensure your goals are met. For many, privacy is an important goal. If the software that you are using compromises your privacy that you value, then that software is not secure.
throwawaymath|6 years ago
falcolas|6 years ago
I disagree that they are "the most secure" browsers, let alone software. They fail to isolate remote scripts properly; that people were capable of executing timing attacks against the CPU (Specter et.al.) shows that they are not really very secure.
Browsers which don't execute Javascript and advanced CSS (Lynx being one extreme example) are going to be much more secure by default.
zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC|6 years ago
No, it's not. Security is not a goal in itself, it can not be, security is only about guaranteeing other goals, there is no security absent all other goals. What it means for software to be insecure is that it doesn't ensure your goals are met. For many, privacy is an important goal. If the software that you are using compromises your privacy that you value, then that software is not secure.