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What we know about you when you click on this article

90 points| kohtatsu | 6 years ago |vox.com | reply

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[+] et2o|6 years ago|reply
Seems like this would have been a good opportunity to actually show you the relevant data they’re collecting from your visit.
[+] dylan604|6 years ago|reply
I would love to see a site provide a little pop-out window with all of the mined data displayed for the site users to see. I could see where the 3rd parties mining that data would not want all of the users to see that. I've never used GA or similar, but I seriously doubt that the 3rd parties provide the site owners/developers a method for being able to do this. They want to drive eyeballs back to their site to view the metrics.
[+] Traster|6 years ago|reply
The problem is that they can't do that to completion- they often can't know the data that their advertisers are collecting and they certainly can't share the data that they're collecting from 3rd parties using 'profiles'. An important fact from this article is your privacy is often the minimum of the privacy settings you have set. So it might be true that you've never authorized Vox to monitor your demographic data, but they know enough to get that information from other companies. Legally they can't share that information.
[+] superkuh|6 years ago|reply
The simplest solution to all of this is to browse with javascript disabled and only temporarily whitelist certain first party domains when required.

Like egdod said at the bottom of this comment thread, downvoted into oblivion: "Javascript is a cancer and should be disabled whenever possible."

[+] DEADBEEFC0FFEE|6 years ago|reply
I have been selectively whitelisting using noscript for a couple of years. It's a tedious burden, but it is interesting. The web is largely broken without JS.
[+] chrismmay|6 years ago|reply
I think you would miss out on about 90% of what the web has to offer if you simply disable Javascript. A bit like saying you should never use a bank or credit cards and do everything with cash. Javascript is one of the most popular programming languages these days. This forum is full of programmers, so it's not surprising you get downvoted for recommending that people disable Javascript.
[+] tsbinz|6 years ago|reply
“If you logged into our network through social media we also have access to portions of your public social profile, such as your name, email address, and photo.“

Obvious in hindsight, but the profile picture is probably a goldmine for targeted advertising. Not sure if anybody does that but using that for age estimation would probably be way more accurate than the guesses I’ve seen implicitly (lots of ads like “people in <age group> love this product”) and explicitly.

[+] 3pt14159|6 years ago|reply
Also profile photos are frequently reused between sites. Easy way of connecting handles, though they're not always real since some people create fake profiles on one network from real profiles on another.
[+] zwaps|6 years ago|reply
I love that I have to accept ALL tracking & cookies to even read that webpage
[+] greenyoda|6 years ago|reply
I disabled all cookies, all JavaScript and all 3rd-party content on that page using uMatrix, and it loads just fine.
[+] wildduck|6 years ago|reply
Or you can > document.getElementById('privacy-consent').style.display = 'none'
[+] tutfbhuf|6 years ago|reply
I can recommend https://www.freefullrss.com where you can convert any rss feed into a full text rss feed. The websites get rendered for you and you can view them in the rss reader of your choice, so you don't have to visit the site at all, no JavaScript and no fingerprinting exposure at all.

In the long run, I think this might be the future, to have a server to render websites into a readable format for you.

[+] chrismmay|6 years ago|reply
I use Brave and OpenVPN on a cloud server. I tested my privacy with this https://privacy.net/analyzer/ ... Strangely, it said I was logged in to twitter, facebook and reddit when I'm not logged in to any of them. I don't even have a twitter account.
[+] allovernow|6 years ago|reply
Cool concept but for me on Brave the site was pretty broken. Content didn't seem to be loading correctly and honestly the navigation takes up half the page and made whatever results did come up really annoying to read. Scrolling was not smooth and things would disappear before they were actually out of the viewport. Also incorrectly reported me as using chrome.
[+] Traster|6 years ago|reply
>It’s a lot — I get it — but the net result is that you, dear reader, get to read our content without a paywall.

I'd love to examine this. Podcasts for example, have almost none of this tracking (as enforced by Apple) and no pay wall. And frankly, since journalism costs pretty much however much you're paying your staff I'd love to see the argument for how much the CEO of vox gets paid when compared to the cumulative loss of privacy and self-determination that their readers have suffered.

[+] shostack|6 years ago|reply
Podcast tracking is improving, but not super useful yet in many cases. It works best for advertisers with high LTV products that can be tracked via coupon codes or memorable vanity URLs. A lot of advertisers actually shy away from them because they try to charge high CPMs without great tracking, which is important when their reach is so low comparatively so other statistical methods aren't as useful for measurement.
[+] f2000|6 years ago|reply
tldr; Everything.
[+] egdod|6 years ago|reply
JavaScript is cancer and should be disabled whenever possible.
[+] cies|6 years ago|reply
In the browser it kinda is. Unless the web app/site is opensource and allows everyone to study it, then it is a benign cancer I guess :)

Server-side JS is, well, just an inferior choice IMHO. But that's down to taste or the task at hand. But server-side it sure is no cancer.