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theatraine | 6 years ago

I have never understood this and this very issue has caused trouble in my romantic relationships.

Here's my thought process: why would someone talk about something if they don't want input? It seems like a waste of time.

Where's the gap in my thinking? Is there some way I can mentally reframe my thought process so that I 1) Don't immediately try to solve the problem and 2) Don't get annoyed at my significant other for wasting my time.

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teachrdan|6 years ago

Consider it this way: The person you're talking to is an intelligent human being who knows they're capable of solving the problem that caused them distress.

The remedy they need right now is not a solution. The remedy they need is having someone listen to their situation and empathize.

Bonus: If they really are unable to think of a solution to the underlying problem, after venting about it they will be in a position to better think constructively and even take advice from you.

Balgair|6 years ago

> 2) Don't get annoyed at my significant other for wasting my time.

I mean, if your SO or anyone that you care about is talking with/to you and you could ever possibly think it's a waste of your time no matter what it is that they are saying, then I think you may need to re-evaluate a few things in the new year.

I know where it is you are coming from here, as I also had the same thought process for a long time. Honestly, you just have to find the right kinda people to be around. If you have siblings or parents, you know how it is that everything that you manage to talk about is interesting in some way and how you both know when it's not. Like, during a TV show/movie you really like, even the 'dull' parts are interesting and you are super pumped that they explored the world of the film/show just a bit more. How you want to learn everything there is to know about Star Wars, Marvel, Python 2.7, etc? Even how a Wookie sneezes or Thor shaves?

Yeah, people that you like to be around that much, those are the people to become romantically involved with. Don't become romantically involved with people that 'waste your time' when they tell you about their issues and problems.

SuoDuanDao|6 years ago

The way I frame it is that the problem is in some way more complicated than it seems on first analysis, and they aren't so much asking for your help coming up with a solution for the problem as they initially frame it so much as they are using the conversation to think out loud. So the proper response when you realise you're in this kind of conversation is to ask clarifying questions to help the person articulate what the problem actually is.

yesenadam|6 years ago

You could try reading Deborah Tannen's classic You Just Don't Understand. I used to recommend it to everyone in a relationship I met! It's about different communication styles of men and women (and a lot more). Her previous book That's Not What I Meant! was about different communication styles of different cultures, but everyone was so interested in the gender chapter she wrote a great book about that. Epic insights on every page.

rovolo|6 years ago

1) Do they want you to fix their problem, or do they just want you to be aware of their problem? (wait until they ask a direct question) Ex:

Them: My foot is broken

You: Have you considered not walking on it? Have you considered putting a cast on it?

vs

You: That sucks. (mentally: don't ask them to walk on it until it heals)

2) Do you have enough information yet to make a reasonable suggestion? (Smile and nod, shut up)

Them: I don't like my boss and yesterday I ...

You: Why don't you quit?

3) Your suggestion will fix their problem, but what are the consequences of your solution?

Them: I can't walk upstairs to get my medicine (they are on crutches)

You: Let me help you up the stairs (they then need to find you every time they go upstairs. Instead, make sure everything they need is downstairs)

Contrary to GP, I don't think "wait until they ask a direct question" is a perfect strategy; though it's a great strategy compared to shooting your mouth off. Waiting until they ask a direct question is a shortcut to make sure you don't imply that they were too dumb to think of your half-baked solution.