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ericfrenkiel | 6 years ago

I would say it’s your own bias which is informing your opinion. California has only gotten more “progressive” with each election.

If that makes you happy, I hope you understand that it’s “progressive” policy which has caused crime to explode, housing prices to rise, and people to leave the state.

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intopieces|6 years ago

> hope you understand that it’s “progressive” policy which has caused crime to explode

Crime has not exploded in California. California’s violent crime rate rose in 2017—but it remains historically low. The statewide property crime rate decreased in 2017. Crime rates vary dramatically by region and category. Violent crime increased in a majority of counties but property crime decreased in most counties. [0]

[0]https://www.ppic.org/publication/crime-trends-in-california/

mrep|6 years ago

I don't trust any property crime "stat" in any moderately sized city. Every single person I know whose had property crime happen to them which is in multiple cities and states doesn't even bother reporting it because the cops won't do anything so it's just a waste of time.

lotsofpulp|6 years ago

I would say it’s the lack of mental healthcare and a social safety net that causes all of the above. And it’s not possible to address on a state level as all the other states would ship the problems to the state that tries to offer the benefits.

bsder|6 years ago

> California has only gotten more “progressive” with each election.

That is different from "damping the extremes".

Why is it so difficult for those on the "conservative" side to believe that the election outcomes reflect the will of the populace when they actively reject "conservatism"?

> I hope you understand that it’s “progressive” policy which has caused crime to explode

This is a dog whistle way of saying "homelessness" as most crime has not exploded.

However, I have yet to see a conservative solution to homelessness short of "round them up and ship them somewhere else". aka part of the reason for California's homelessness is other, generally conservative, states shipping them in.

> housing prices to rise

A fair argument. And this is also a contributor to homelessness. Prop 13 is going to have to fall before anything really helps with this.

> and people to leave the state.

I'm still waiting for all these Republicans in Southern California to head to Texas. Any time now ...

What the article points out is that most people leaving California are, unfortunately, on the lower end of the income range. Conservatives like you should welcome this as they are generally Democratic Party folks.