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detrino | 6 years ago

Do you use Mac OS X?

When using Windows or Linux I don't find much benefit in text rendering on a 4k display.

But as Mac OS X has no sub pixel rendering or grid fitting text looks terrible without a high ppi display.

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proverbialbunny|6 years ago

I do use OSX, but I'm also on Linux Mint. Both are sharp and smooth as butter. I'm uncertain why your experience has been what it has with Linux. Could be drivers or something. I did have to set Mint to work for 4k60. It did not work out of the box properly. (HiDPI was off. Hardware vsync was off.) Mint has never had sub pixel rendering as far as I know. It looks crisp and great.

detrino|6 years ago

I think you misunderstand me. I am saying that on Linux text at normal PPI is pretty much as good (to me) as text at high PPI because it has sub pixel rendering and strong hinting that Mac OS X lacks,

jjoonathan|6 years ago

When did that happen? Back in my day, OSX was the one with sub pixel rendering and Windows users would constantly complain that it looked fuzzy.

detrino|6 years ago

OSX has had sub pixel rendering disabled by default since Mojave. It also never had the strong hinting that you can find on Linux and Windows which makes text significantly sharper at the cost of differing from the shape as specified by the font.

chrisweekly|6 years ago

This! MacOS (mbp15r) with seemingly any non-Apple external monitor, text looks just awful regardless of font or resolution settings.

m463|6 years ago

I was thinking macos always had subpixel rendering, but maybe it does not? I am not running mojave

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17476873

Also, apple has a tendency to support fancy features ONLY on its own hardware. I know apple retina displays allowed display scaling, but non-apple displays only let you set the absolute display resolution.

lightbulbjim|6 years ago

Not true. I get the same scaling options on my 4K monitor as I do on my Retina display.

PretzelFisch|6 years ago

On windows with a 27in 4k I definitely see a difference much better then the past 2560x1440 or 2560x1600

AnthonBerg|6 years ago

macOS looks fine on a 32” 4K