[turk73]

So what's your plan? Socialized medicine? I mean, it's working out so great for those Chinese folks, right?

Making everyone else pay for you is no better of a solution, it's just shifting the costs around someplace else, which honestly is selfish of you to decide how I should deploy my ever-dwindling supply of cash reserves. I have two kids to put through college but Bernie and all his Democrat pals want to confiscate as much of my money as possible to pay for someone else's stuff, probably the 20 million illegals who showed up here unannounced, or maybe just swindle the money the way Democrats have done for DECADES.

It's coming to the point where guys like me might as well take up arms against people like YOU and just put and end to it. Get my drift?

[vidarh]

> So what's your plan? Socialized medicine? I mean, it's working out so great for those Chinese folks, right?

China has until recently had a less socialized healthcare system than the US. They've made massive strides towards trying to provide a universal system over the last few years, but they are still a developing country, so I'm not sure why you think comparing with China is a good idea, other than, I guess a knee jerk (and incorrect) assumption that it'd all be government run...

Meanwhile socialized healthcare systems are working out fantastically well for large parts of the developed world, but really the most important factor is universal healthcare - universal systems range from fully private multi-payer systems with some system for subsidizing those who can't pay, to fully socialized single payer systems.

What the vast majority of them have in common is that they result in far lower total healthcare spending than in the US thanks to actually regulating healthcare with the public in mind rather than insurers and healthcare providers. In fact, a large number of countries spend less total on healthcare per capita than US taxpayers pay towards Medicare and Medicaid alone, before you even factor in US private insurance.

[bschwindHN]

> confiscate as much of my money as possible to pay for someone else's stuff

_You_ get healthcare as well. It's not just "someone else", it's you, your family, your friends, and everyone you care about. No one should go into a spiraling life of debt because they broke an arm or got sick at an inopportune time.

[seszett]

Healthcare is not socialized in China, the best facilities are private, and the public ones are still paying (usually requiring proof that they will be able to pay before admitting patients). Quite often, they provide different levels of healthcare depending on how much the patient pays.

It's easy to think that China is run as a socialist country because there's "communist" in the name of the ruling party, but the truth is very far from that; in many aspects China is a ruthless capitalistic free-for-all society with less socialist policies than even the US.

[hkeide]

Hospitals are not free in China

[leesec]

Please remove this nonsense ^^

[seneca]

Just downvote comments you don't think add to the discussion. That's what the feature is for. It's not up to you to censor the comments section, and your comment is even less useful than the one you're replying to.