The gay community has flawlessly foreshadowed the culture of the general populace for hundreds of years. People ignore this for stupid ideological/emotional reasons. If you want to see what the future Tinder looks like, look at Grindr today.
I really really don't think that's going to work...
Women have enough issues being harassed on the dating apps as it is...
Grindr conversations are very... forward (and would be seen as harassment by most Woman I have chat with about Grindr)
In reality the only reason the Grindr way "works" is because there is no societal power difference between everyone on it vs a hetero focused dating app.
As someone who accidentally met their partner of 6yrs while looking for casual sex on OkCupid, and someone who is and was just on Grindr earlier... no. No.
Grindr's great. I'm proud of us queer folk for eschewing the shame and ironic "pomp and circumstance" of sex culture in the US, but, in my opinion, Grindr is NOT an example of how to fix dating apps for the masses, or for straight people.
(Though, and I don't say this to be mean or directly to who I'm replying to... I can certainly see why a straight man looking for sex would envy Grindr. At the same time, talk to any queer therapist or psychiatrist in the [large city] metro area and ask them about the mental effects of Grindr/Scruff on the LGBT community. It's a double-edged sword. What does it mean when there are literally thousands of horny men around you and NONE of them are talking to you?)
That all having been said, while reading this thread and seeing the number of men saying "I get dates and I'm not attractive", I'm realizing that either (1) the bar really just is lower for gay men on Grindr or (2) I'm better looking than I give myself credit for...
Also, I can't +1 enough what `nerdjon` said. Really condenses it down nicely.
The article did say that it as a straight male he was not going to talk about LTBTQ+ apps.
That being said, Grindr by its very nature removes the balance issue in this particular sense. But Grindr is also a "dating" app by App Store description alone and is really not its primary use.
Have I had dates off of Grindr? Yes... But they are the exception. So looking at Grindr as a fix is not the way to go, it was very clearly not designed with that in mind (If when I talk to any of my straight male friends about Grindr is any indication)
That and... Grindr has its own major issues fueled by how its designed to be very much not a dating app.
Grindr has been moving more and more into the "dating app" territory. As of last month they introduced the ability to pin multiple Spotify songs to your profile just like on Tinder. That doesn't aid hooking up, that aids self expression and find other users you relate to.
zelly|6 years ago
nerdjon|6 years ago
Women have enough issues being harassed on the dating apps as it is...
Grindr conversations are very... forward (and would be seen as harassment by most Woman I have chat with about Grindr)
In reality the only reason the Grindr way "works" is because there is no societal power difference between everyone on it vs a hetero focused dating app.
grindonthis|6 years ago
Grindr's great. I'm proud of us queer folk for eschewing the shame and ironic "pomp and circumstance" of sex culture in the US, but, in my opinion, Grindr is NOT an example of how to fix dating apps for the masses, or for straight people.
(Though, and I don't say this to be mean or directly to who I'm replying to... I can certainly see why a straight man looking for sex would envy Grindr. At the same time, talk to any queer therapist or psychiatrist in the [large city] metro area and ask them about the mental effects of Grindr/Scruff on the LGBT community. It's a double-edged sword. What does it mean when there are literally thousands of horny men around you and NONE of them are talking to you?)
That all having been said, while reading this thread and seeing the number of men saying "I get dates and I'm not attractive", I'm realizing that either (1) the bar really just is lower for gay men on Grindr or (2) I'm better looking than I give myself credit for...
Also, I can't +1 enough what `nerdjon` said. Really condenses it down nicely.
sdinsn|6 years ago
Perhaps we just need to accept that men's drive is higher than women's, and that no app is going to change that.
aWEfjaWefj|6 years ago
nerdjon|6 years ago
That being said, Grindr by its very nature removes the balance issue in this particular sense. But Grindr is also a "dating" app by App Store description alone and is really not its primary use.
Have I had dates off of Grindr? Yes... But they are the exception. So looking at Grindr as a fix is not the way to go, it was very clearly not designed with that in mind (If when I talk to any of my straight male friends about Grindr is any indication)
That and... Grindr has its own major issues fueled by how its designed to be very much not a dating app.
dag11|6 years ago
saagarjha|6 years ago