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Our experience moving to SF to do YC

155 points| james_impliu | 6 years ago |posthog.com

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[+] gavinray|6 years ago|reply
Really cool to see you guys talking about your journey, hope to see you succeed.

I caught Posthog a bit early as it was trending on Git, and sent the repo link out to a few startup + dev groupchats on WhatsApp because I think it complements Metabase incredibly well. The combination of PostHog + Metabase lets you stand up a really powerful free BI and product analytics stack in a few seconds, and these are two areas I see so many early-stage startups faltering on. Not collecting product and usage/user data and using it to gain actionable insights.

Excited to continue following along from the sidelines to see what the future holds for you.

[+] james_impliu|6 years ago|reply
Thanks - it's really nice to see the community sharing it!

To your point on "in a few seconds"... We're currently trying to build out more libraries as fast as we can so people working on apps in lots of languages can easily integrate it - we've done Python, Ruby, NodeJS, JS, Go and PHP, and an API for the rest. Feature requests for new libraries as issues in the repo (https://github.com/posthog/posthog) very welcome.

[+] francescow|6 years ago|reply
Amazing article! It sounds like you guys made the right choice to move to SF. Thank you so much for the super kind words about Kyte! The whole Kyte team much appreciated this and we are looking forward to delivering many more cars to your door in the future! :) The best of luck for PostHog!!!
[+] mav3rick|6 years ago|reply
I see the pricing is per day. Have you thought of hourly pricing ?
[+] est31|6 years ago|reply
I wonder how you'd solve the visas in a situation like this. It seems to me the only way to found a company in the US is either via a O1 visum, a greencard, or a citizenship, all of which are rather hard to obtain, harder than the alternatives where you join an existing company. There is no big tech with on-campus immigration offices sponsoring you.
[+] james_impliu|6 years ago|reply
It's really tough - we had to get professional advice.

YC connected us with an immigration attorney the moment we got accepted and he helped greatly to make sure we approached this in the right way. It would have been a maze to do this without him. It's still not easy and it's a lot of extra stress.

Certain countries like the UK have ESTAs for up to 90 days, but the program is 3 months + then you generally will want to be here to raise afterwards, so you should get some advice on how to do this specific to your home country.

Even the VISAs are painful - for example, an O1 (even if you do manage to get it) means IIRC your spouse can't work even if you can.

[+] eternalny1|6 years ago|reply
> I used to run sales teams, my job was to try to give a realistic figure for how much our revenue would increase. Any experienced VP Sales will play down the number – most would prefer hitting a $20M target, over missing a $22M number by $1M and ending up at a higher number. That’s how you optimize for not getting fired.

8 bosses, Bob!

Good write-up.

[+] james_impliu|6 years ago|reply
Thanks :) I actually find this a really interesting topic. This approach can have some merit - ie it leads to you not overspending and running out of money if you are reliant on new business targets being hit. However, the ideal situation is that your CFO manages the spending conservatively whilst the VP Sales goes out and pushes things as far as they can. There are some morale issues too with giving very high targets when you are a managing a team who are judged against those - for fast growth, you want to give people a sense of accomplishment (so constantly undershooting huge targets is a quick way to prevent that) but also for them to push the boundary of what is possible.
[+] sbilstein|6 years ago|reply
omg finally a positive post on moving to San Francisco! Sure it has it's problems but the Bay Area is truly lovely in so many ways.
[+] tschwimmer|6 years ago|reply
This was a really refreshing take on this type of blog post. It came across as genuine and humble. I wish you folks the best of luck on PostHog!
[+] thedance|6 years ago|reply
Cutting yourself off from civil society so you can totally dedicate yourself to enriching the VC class doesn't seem positive to me. In fact it seems like this is how we keep getting so much software (and hardware!) that solves no actual human need of any kind.
[+] notlukesky|6 years ago|reply
Did I miss it but where did they move from? A comparison of before and after would have been great.
[+] robbrown451|6 years ago|reply
They do mention London down in the article, but I already knew UK because of the spelling of sceptical and the use of "hired" where Americans would say "rented."

Nice to see an article where they aren't slamming on my city, btw. :) Although I question the "rarely windy" comment.

[+] ultimoo|6 years ago|reply
Nice read! Call me jaded but _walking_ up to twin peaks in the dark? Be careful!
[+] james_impliu|6 years ago|reply
Hence this handy guide! It turns out you can get down not via the road... although it doesn't appear on Google Maps.
[+] mandelbrotwurst|6 years ago|reply
I assumed you meant because it's a strenuous walk until I saw "in the dark". Why?
[+] pw|6 years ago|reply
This mentions their first group office hours. Does YC now do group office hours instead of individual? If they do, I'd hadn't heard about it, and it seems like it could be an important innovation.
[+] james_impliu|6 years ago|reply
There's a mix, so you can request 1:1 office hours whenever you want to speak to a particular partner. The onus is on you to drive the agenda in these. We tend to use them to talk through what we're doing next. ie after our HN launch we wanted to discuss "we have some momentum, what should we do next". Basically, whenever we've too many ideas and need help being more focussed.

The group ones are a once every two weeks thing. The reason they're cool is that you hear about others raising issues you wouldn't have thought to raise yourself.

[+] robbiet480|6 years ago|reply
W18 founder checking in: we did group office hours and loved them!
[+] dirtydroog|6 years ago|reply
What 'YC' is wasn't explained by the end of the first two paragraphs so I stopped reading.
[+] redis_mlc|6 years ago|reply
> so I stopped reading

dirtydroog, if you want to be an entrepreneur, you need a lot more persistence than that. Not only is "YC" well-known, and the operator of this site, but it's the first result in google when you search for "YC" or "what is YC".

Not trying to insult you, but you need to raise your game several levels.

The whole "stopped reading" meme needs to die. Generally it indicates a problem with the reader, not the author.

[+] dctoedt|6 years ago|reply
Yes, many writing coaches counsel writers to explain terms of art that might be unfamiliar to random readers. Granting that you're new here, one assumes that someone commenting is familiar with YC, but that might be a flawed assumption.
[+] viklove|6 years ago|reply
Do you er... know where you posted this comment?