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adgasf | 6 years ago

AFAIK the bulbs are compatible with v1 and v2 hubs, so the bulbs do not need to be replaced. The v1 hubs will continue to work across a local area network. Philips offered a heavily discounted upgrade for v1 hub users to get a new v2 hub.

However, I still think they should support the v1 hubs for the lifespan of a typical bulb (15 years), at minimum.

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djsumdog|6 years ago

Yea, as long as it works locally and they don't pull the old app .. still it's shitty they're trying to push people to buy new shit they don't need. It's just creating waste to increase sales. The attempt to grow without responsibility really needs to die. Consumerism with the goal of more consumerism is a cancer.

kelnos|6 years ago

While it's tempting to blame this on Philips doing this to increase sales, I think it's just as plausible that they just don't want to spend resources on maintaining the infrastructure required for the v1 bridges anymore. The v1 was very early in the market, and doesn't even have the horsepower to support HomeKit etc.

This is also a more likely explanation if you consider that Philips offered heavily discounted v2 bridges to v1 bridge owners. It's probable that it's cheaper to Philips to sell v2 upgrades to customers at or below cost than it is to maintain support for the v1 bridge.

Having said that, it sucks for v1 owners that they have a product that's going to lose features unless they upgrade. I do have a few Hue bulbs (with a v2 bridge), but I have everything set up through openHAB, with remote access going through a server I control. This way I don't have to rely on anyone but my VPS provider to keep all of it functional. Unfortunately this route is out of most people's technical know-how. And I certainly sympathize with people who could do this, but would rather use an off-the-shelf product that just works.

adgasf|6 years ago

The v1 / v2 split was arguably Apple's fault. v1 launched before Homekit; then Homekit required special hardware authentication; then v2 launched to support this; then Apple walked back on the special hardware and allowed things to be done in software, but Philips had already made breaking changes for v2.

Again, Philips made the wrong call here.

jpindar|6 years ago

You don't need their app, there are many, many others.