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MFogleman | 6 years ago

I was a cellebrite certified operator/analyst. The answer is a combination of "The iPhone is that secure" and "Androids usually aren't".

The tools that Cellebrite sells will handle all but the most recent iPhones and maybe the most recent Androids. The newer the iPhone, the less likely a law enforcement officer is gonna have the tools to get into it. Cellebrite offers a service where you can ship them the phone and let their techs go at it. Whether it is because of legitimate limitations in their technology, or purely a marketing/commercial limitation, is unknown.

In general, any non-i{hone is Android. Most Androids are garbage phones that are sold by the dozen in the bottom of a bin at a gas station. Security isn't something its creator or buyer is really concerned about.

I have been out of the field for a few years, so things may have changed slightly in either direction, but I imagine its the same general concept. Newer is harder to break into, brand new iPhone model is probably impossible for now.

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AndroidTempAcc|6 years ago

Using a throwaway. I was arrested and had technology devices raided. Cellebrite was able to bypass the login screen and encryption of my powered on seized Android cellphone, but they were not able to access a different Android phone that was powered down fully.

Nobody was able to access my Veracrypt computers.

torified|6 years ago

Thanks for the post.

I'm curious, did they try to put any pressure on you to unlock the devices for them?

carstenhag|6 years ago

A (still current) cellebrite ambassador told me in 2016-2017 that the most recent Samsung flagship back then, if encrypted, was safe from all attacks they had.