[Thimothy]

I keep hearing from friends in Germany that the death numbers reported are completely bollocks. They say the people who die with pre-existing conditions aggravated with the coronavirus are not counted, nor the people who are not tested after deceasing. Whereas in Italy seems everything that dies in the medical system these days is being counted.

Would love to see someone confirming or disproving this...

[k__]

I read this the other way around.

The death numbers from Italy were completly insane, because they counted in people who would have died anyway and just happened to be infected by the virus at the time of death.

Don't know which is true.

[thu2111]

Both countries are counting all infected.

https://swprs.org/rki-relativiert-corona-todesfaelle/

The President of the German Robert Koch Institute confirmed on March 20, 2020 that test-positive deceased are counted as "corona deaths" regardless of the real cause of death: "We consider a corona death to be someone who has been diagnosed with a coronavirus infection was, «said the RKI President when asked a journalist (see video below).

According to experts, the number of deaths is severely relativized, since the patients die in many cases from their previous illnesses and not from the virus. Data from Italy show that over 99% of the deceased had one or more chronic medical conditions, including cancer and heart problems, and only 12% mentioned the coronavirus on the death certificate as a cofactor.

A look at the statistics of the German test-positive deaths shows that the median age of the deceased, similar to Italy, is over 80 years and that there were usually one or more serious previous illnesses.

[threatofrain]

But there's only so much you can do to hide an influx of dead bodies; whatever the explanations are, people would notice at least this.