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ShoeFitr: The company Amazon must buy immediately

161 points| g0atbutt | 15 years ago |thestartupfoundry.com | reply

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[+] oniTony|15 years ago|reply
Considering that Amazon is currently looking to hire people for the sole purpose of trying on shoes... Yes, they need this tech.

http://www.amazon.com/Careers-University-Recruiting/b/ref=gw...

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> "Amazon.com is looking for a Women's Shoe Fit Model to try on our shoe selection and provide fit feedback to help our customers make the best purchasing decisions. The perfect Cinderella must have the perfect Size 8..."

[+] kmfrk|15 years ago|reply
> for the sole purpose of trying on shoes

I see what you did there.

[+] edw519|15 years ago|reply
If this works as advertised, it's a killer app for the on-line apparel industry.

I've had customers with consistent 60-70% return rates on footwear. It got so bad that customers would buy 3 sizes of the same shoe, planning to keep the best fitting pair and returning the other 2. They'd rather eat double shipping than go back and forth 2 or 3 times. The overhead from processing and restocking the returns consumed all their profit, but they had to keep the footwear to complete their product lines. This would have been great.

[+] gfunk911|15 years ago|reply
I was initially confused by the demo.

Potential use cases

1. I have a perfect fitting shoe, I'd like to buy another perfect fitting shoe of a different brand.

2. I haven't found the perfect fitting shoe. I'd like to find one.

I assumed this would be solving problem #2, but it solves problem #1.

I thought I would tell it "I'm currently in shoe X, and it's the right length but chafes on the right side" or something of that nature, and it would tell me a better shoe.

[+] r00fus|15 years ago|reply
This is actually pretty useful to a small but loyal group: runners. I know folks who run marathons and such, they are fanatical about the right fit and buy 3+ pairs when they find a good fit, because of rapid shoe model obsolescence/changes.

Perhaps with this small but profitable niche they can expand their technology into the mainstream for the likes of you and me.

I'm definitely going to suggest this site to my runner-friends and see what they think.

[+] Groxx|15 years ago|reply
That sort of help-me-find should be pretty easily possible, it just hasn't been done yet. I'd assume it will come out eventually.

What this solves is that buying shoes online is a total crap-shoot unless you're buying something you've already tried on. It's even worse than buying pants, where waists can vary by several inches off their stated inches. http://www.esquire.com/blogs/mens-fashion/pants-size-chart-0...

[+] smackfu|15 years ago|reply
The other tricky bit is that the perfect fitting shoe has to be a current model that they have already scanned. And hopefully it fit perfectly when it was bought, not when it was worn in.
[+] tjarratt|15 years ago|reply
Those are great features, but probably not part of their MVP. Maybe you should propose that to them as feedback?
[+] ffumarola|15 years ago|reply
This pain point is one of the reasons I do not buy pants or shoes online.

This is amazing execution of the idea, and I hope they get bought out for the millions they deserve! Or, if they'd prefer to grow it organically, that too!

[+] g0atbutt|15 years ago|reply
They have a fantastic product. I was extremely impressed with how well it worked. To top it off, Matt seemed like a really great guy when I interviewed him.
[+] endtime|15 years ago|reply
I would consider buying a new pair of shoes today through these guys if they supported more than running shoes.

That said, what stops someone getting the size recommendation through ShoeFitr and then comparison shopping for the actual shoes? I don't think this stops them being valuable to Amazon, but it does seem like a weakness if they're independent.

[+] frisco|15 years ago|reply
Why is this dropping off the frontpage so fast? It's way uncharacteristically down. Is there some kind of hidden penalty at play? It's not spam, and has 50 points in 53 minutes, losing to posts with way less than that...
[+] g0atbutt|15 years ago|reply
I'm not sure. Perhaps an HN admin thinks it's spam?
[+] smackfu|15 years ago|reply
"Buying shoes online sucks. Sizing between brands (and sometimes even within brands) is different."

Zappos (who Amazon owns) does show whether shoes fit true to size or whether to size up. Is this really that much better?

[+] jrockway|15 years ago|reply
This data seems to be based on reviews, and reviewers are typically morons that know nothing about shoes. I order by size, ignoring the reviews, and I've only had one pair of shoes from Zappos not fit well.
[+] bwb|15 years ago|reply
I saw these guys present at SuperConf.net and what a fantastic idea backed by "patent pending" 3d imaging. Amazing stuff and someone is going to grab them quick for an easy 30 to 50 million.
[+] steveklabnik|15 years ago|reply
I'm good friends with the ShoeFitr dudes, they're good guys. They have some serious tech, high reliability web stuff, and they even put up with it being in .NET!
[+] latj|15 years ago|reply
The problem is that the different dimensions to the products dont actually exist. Getting those measurements would come at a great cost. The question is would it be cheaper than shipping returns? Another question- China has industrialized- the next step is dealing in information. When will the suppliers realize they are losing out on a lot of money by not doing the photography and measurement at the factory?
[+] zmitri|15 years ago|reply
Cool idea to go along side would be an iPad app, which allows you to compare your actual foot to inside of the shoe. From the bottom, from the side, etc. Would also work for gloves.

EDIT: Hell, you even show it on a regular LCD screen. Or allow the user to print it out to compare.

[+] r00fus|15 years ago|reply
I imagine the problem is that shoes are real things with 3 dimensions, and feet change shape when they're compressed... neither of which are addressed by a printout (sure a printout is better than nothing, but if it's not predictive enough it's not worth the trouble).

If a device could model what kind of shoe you should wear based on an interactive iPad foot print, that would be amazing tech.

[+] cschwarm|15 years ago|reply
Cool! A German retail site offers something in the same direction:

http://www.mirapodo.de/groessen-kompass

I've been working on a similar concept for dress shoes.

http://sizeadvisors.com/

[+] JeremyHerrman|15 years ago|reply
Wow the German site asks you to measure your foot with a paper, pencil and a ruler. Although ShoeFitr must already have your shoe in their database, the huge win is there's nothing asked of the user besides what shoe they already like and you can find it from brand name and colors.
[+] baddox|15 years ago|reply
Amazon acquired Zappos and created endless. This would certainly fit that part of their business strategy.
[+] gChinkin|15 years ago|reply
Genius idea! I always take a stab at sizing online (I think men's foot sizes are more flexible than women's), but I still don't know if I'm a 10, a 10.5, or an 11!
[+] Mankhool|15 years ago|reply
This reminds me of boo.com. The bubble must be about to burst. Again.
[+] brianbreslin|15 years ago|reply
how is this like boo.com ? boo raised 200Million in capital if i recall correctly. shoefitr raised $125k + the $25k in prizes they won at superconf.