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"WTF, [rms] can't maintain his own damn website?"

44 points| zmitri | 15 years ago |lists.nyhacker.org

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[+] dpritchett|15 years ago|reply
Important context: Stallman's setup and his work process don't involve being online very often. He thinks and writes emails: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1071558

"I spend most of my time using Emacs. I run it on a text console, so that I don't have to worry about accidentally touching the mouse-pad and moving the pointer, which would be a nuisance. I read and send mail with Emacs (mail is what I do most of the time).

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Most of the time I do not have an Internet connection. Once or twice or maybe three times a day I connect and transfer mail in and out. Before sending mail, I always review and revise the outgoing messages. That gives me a chance to catch mistakes and faux pas."

[+] dmlorenzetti|15 years ago|reply
OK, but what does that have to do with whether he maintains his own website? He could code the site himself, if he wanted to, using Emacs, and without an internet connection most of the time.

In fact I think the context works the other way around. RMS maintains a complicated personal website, and apparently does it mainly by writing emails. That, with no other information, is something of a feat. The explanatory context is that he has a bunch of volunteers who mark up what he writes, and put it on the web for him.

[+] zmitri|15 years ago|reply
I knew he was rarely on the web, and even when he is, he doesn't access it directly. Submitted because I thought the mailing list response was, well, funny.
[+] Groxx|15 years ago|reply
Sounds like he needs a CMS. Out-sourcing maintaining your personal website: so? It's a waste of time when others are willing to do it for you, and you can afford their cost. Editing HTML files to do so: WTF.
[+] coderdude|15 years ago|reply
Not a comment on the design, but rather just something that always bugs me when I see it:

"Copyright (c) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 Richard Stallman"

© 2011 is sufficient.

[+] alain94040|15 years ago|reply
Are you sure? If some of your content was written in 1996, you'd be trying to buy you extra protection by claiming that it's copyrighted in 2011. Not that it woud matter for another 70 years or so, but still...
[+] gcb|15 years ago|reply
dammit! and i was hopping to use his flute-playing picture as my own!
[+] iloveponies|15 years ago|reply
I'm more bothered by rms, being the face of the GNU project, FSF etc not making an effort to maintain personal grooming and also social skills.
[+] rararational|15 years ago|reply
To be honest I think the person he is is part of why the FSF GNU succeeded in some sense, he is a radical and often radicals can further change more quickly than any other kind of person.

That said he is very weird and some part of me thinks he would be annoying to hang around with but he always seem to be at least somewhat polite online.

[+] pluies|15 years ago|reply
And? RMS is not a web designer. He has more important things to do.
[+] fleitz|15 years ago|reply
From the looks of his site neither are any of his volunteers.
[+] chrislloyd|15 years ago|reply
What fork of Emacs ships with this feature? I hate having to do work too!
[+] hnfwerr|15 years ago|reply
And what an ugly web site that he has.

I remember reading somewhere that he can't type anymore (or barely write) because of some problems with his hand. That's why he charges for autographs too...

[+] zephjc|15 years ago|reply
That might explain GNU Hurd's development pace
[+] preek|15 years ago|reply
Do you have a source for that? If true, I am a lucky guy - having received his "Happy hacking" signature six years ago. It's still watching proudly from my blackboard.
[+] rwaliany|15 years ago|reply
I've had the pleasure... of inviting him to talk at UC Berkeley Linux User Group. He made us change the name of the group to the UC Berkeley GNU/Linux User Group. During dinner, he also likes to stick his hair in the communal food. When I invited him a second time to speak, I avoided him like the plague.
[+] dasht|15 years ago|reply
Looking at many of the comments, I wasn't aware that HN was for personal attacks on various people.
[+] coderdude|15 years ago|reply
It's not -- or at least it wasn't. Nearly all the rude comments (and the rudest of them, I might add) are all from new users. We know where they come from.
[+] donpdonp|15 years ago|reply
Maybe someone should write an email based CMS system.
[+] vaksel|15 years ago|reply
pretty sure that's posterious or however you spell that
[+] fleitz|15 years ago|reply
Free as in freeloader.
[+] woid|15 years ago|reply
Genius! In the future he can replace himself with email generating machines and nobody notices.
[+] makmanalp|15 years ago|reply
Looks like someone hasn't heard of CMSes, for example wordpress.
[+] geuis|15 years ago|reply
"Richard sends a bunch of emails every day and someone needs to edit the html files on the site with those updates"

Seriously?? Really, get a wordpress or squarespace account.

[+] mortenjorck|15 years ago|reply
Maybe it's just me, but there's this one YC-funded startup that I think could really help with this exact problem...
[+] wkearney99|15 years ago|reply
Pfft, rms can't maintain his own personal hygiene either.