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temp20160423 | 5 years ago

I don't follow this logic.

Bird/lime own their inventory.

Airbnb is better off than the hotel chains IMO. The hotel chains have to keep paying their staff and rent while revenue drops, but airbnb just sees the revenue drop.

It exposes the people who bought properties to list on airbnb on aggressive margins or like the example in the article of someone buying a car just to put on the platform. I wonder how much rental prices will be affected when the properties that were bought to use for airbnb are brought back to the long-term rental market.

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wvenable|5 years ago

Yes, Airbnb will be better off because they've offloaded all the risk on the hosts -- which is really what we're talking about here. Sure there were some hosts just renting out their basement suite but many others were effectively running makeshift hotels by buying up properties. Those people are going to be in big trouble.

hn_throwaway_99|5 years ago

Actually, I know some people who bought whole homes in vacation destinations that are doing fine as they are advertising their properties as good places to quarantine. It's the market for shared spaces that is completely dead.

gamblor956|5 years ago

AirBnB will be worse off, because post COVID19, people will trust hotels more than random strangers' houses. You know the hotel will be cleaned. You can't say the same of an AirBnB.

And it's very likely that AirBnB restrictions will increase post-COVID19 to eliminate a lot of the apartment units that were (illegally) converted to AirBnB units, and that enforcement of existing AirBnB restrictions in cities like NY and LA will increase dramatically, both for safety reasons and to protect the hotel companies that actually employ workers, pay hotel taxes, and contribute to the local economy.

colmvp|5 years ago

I can't speak for every city, but where I live, a lot of Airbnber's are hurting for the sudden drop in revenue. Hotels might get bailouts or credits from the government but short term rental companies will get nothing and be hard pressed to find the resources to continue paying their mortgages. We're already seeing condos that were rented out as Airbnb's pop up on the real estate market.

Apocryphon|5 years ago

This is also the perfect time for jurisdictions to tighten up their regulations that pertain to Airbnb.

PopeDotNinja|5 years ago

Meh. If hotels can have bed bugs, they have Coronavirus, too.

AnimalMuppet|5 years ago

I agree with you about Airbnb. Airbnb itself will be fine, but those who bought a property to rent out are hurting.

But Bird/Lime are in deep trouble, and not just because of cost of the scooters they own. Who is going to rent one, not knowing the health status of the previous renter?

Judgmentality|5 years ago

I don't follow your logic. AirBnB will be fine even though nobody wants to use their service, but Bird/Lime won't be fine because nobody wants to use their service?

I'd be much more comfortable using a scooter because I can just wipe down the handles. I have no idea what's going on in someone else's house, and in my experience AirBnB hosts are pretty shitty about cleaning up their properties even though they make you pay for it.

detaro|5 years ago

A pile of unused scooters is probably not that expensive either to store somewhere while they're not used (and many are probably just out on the street). Aren't employee costs going to hurt both models more? Bird already laid of hundreds of their 1,000+ employees. Airbnb has 12,000+ employees.

The scooter companies might have less reserves though, and their market is probably oversaturated even in good times.