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> albeit well over 300 years later, and as further proof that the Irish have perhaps the longest memories in the world.

Oh right. At what point do historical figures get a free pass on bringing up their bad doings?

And by bad doings, we're talking deaths in the hundreds of thousands, enforced slavery etc.

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Yeah, I am Irish and I think that patriotism is a disease. But even so, historical figures who have reputations for ethnic cleansing and genocide [1] should not be forgotten OR forgiven.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromwellian_conquest_of_Irelan...

LatteLazy|5 years ago

Out of interest, how is Cromwell taught in Irish schools and what do they say about the causes of the war?

growlist|5 years ago

Still waiting for my reparations from the Normans.

handojin|5 years ago

Fagamid suid mar a ta se

ZanyProgrammer|5 years ago

“Irish slavery” is usually a sign someone is a racist asshole who has no idea what they’re talking about.

ploika|5 years ago

This is an article about Oliver Cromwell, where the author completely brushes off the atrocities he committed in Ireland.

You are correct that as well as all the murder and disenfranchisement and land confiscation, it was only indentured servitude (in Caribbean plantations, where the servants often died before their term of servitude was complete) and not chattel slavery.

But that's not really enough to accuse people of being racist assholes.

dev_north_east|5 years ago

I'm not American and have no interest in that side of stuff. Keep your partisan political terms and debates to yourselves.

Call them forced to migrate, indented servants or whatever makes yourself feel good. I'll stick with the accurate term for such.

Edit: Sorry for being a dick, I made assumptions there.

fsloth|5 years ago

Racist? Toward whom, Irish? I'm sorry, not from the anglosaxon world, I know britain put Ireland under the boot centuries ago, but is calling all of that's effects a form of enslavement deragotary toward Irish?

s_dev|5 years ago

> has no idea what they’re talking about.

Funny -- because you've clearly misread something in the thread or think you're in another thread. This has nothing to do with "Irish Slavery".

You be sure to continue to pontificate who does and doesn't know what they're talking about though.

coribuci|5 years ago

> “Irish slavery” is usually a sign someone is a racist asshole who has no idea what they’re talking about.

So long for the praised HN guidelines.