[uk_programmer]

> Neither does getting money without labour mean that a UBI is wrong in principle.

Yes it is. Because they are taking wealth from people who do work. Everyone sidesteps this and tries to justify it as being virtuous by citing things that are post rationalisations.

It will also make people more dependent on the government which gives more power to politicians (those who will want to be elected will simply promise to increase the UBI) and we go further down the road to tyranny.

[Firadeoclus]

Unless you are arguing that taxation per se is unjust (which I'd disagree with), I don't see how you can argue that a UBI is wrong in principle, seeing that taxation of work is not the only way to finance a UBI.

Private property takes wealth out of the commons.