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PappaPatat | 5 years ago

I would like to say thank you to him, since it opened a huge budget and mandate for my security team at the time.

No more draining discussion if AV needed to be installed on particular systems, the right to wipe any employees desk or laptop in case of "issues", create outbound firewall rules (yes those where new, and yes it saved a lot of damage 3 years later when Slammer hit, but that's another story) and budget to install "monitoring services" on whatever we'd like.

The total data loss was limited, the costs of employees not being able to work was a lot worst.

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MithrilTuxedo|5 years ago

I guess that at the height of Windows market saturation.

I thought it was rude to pay for an OS and then have to pay separately for software to protect that OS. It seemed off to me that the guy who wrote Melissa got jail time, but nothing happened to those who sold the software needed to run viruses.

I stopped having Windows installed after Slammer hit. After almost two decades away, I got a job at a big American company that issues Windows laptops and lo-and-behold there's some seperately purchsed AV software installed.

It makes the laptop a space heater. If I don't explicitly shut it down, the AV software never drops below 30% CPU and the thing's fans never stop running. They accidentally dropped AV for a couple weeks when they upgraded my machine from Windows 7 to 10 and it shaved five minutes off a ~17 minute Maven build. I'm one employ of tens or hundreds of thousands producing all this extraneous waste heat.

My friends needle me about BitCoin's environmental impact. I ask them what the overhead of AV has been.

notechback|5 years ago

The comparison of bitcoin Vs AV energy usage is a bit ridiculous. No one of buying hundreds of GPUs to mine AV.

That said, both are wasteful and ultimately neither should exist.

vanderZwan|5 years ago

Honestly, we probably should be grateful that this was the first big scare. It was a huge outbreak, but at the same time a very visible and relatively benign worm.

bartread|5 years ago

Exactly. Compared with what organised crime, nation states, political organisations, special interest groups and some shady companies are doing with hacking, manipulation, worms, and botnets nowadays this is pretty benign. A helpful wakeup call to everyone to take security more seriously, in fact.

pedrocr|5 years ago

> The total data loss was limited, the costs of employees not being able to work was a lot worst.

The productivity costs of all those mitigating measures shouldn't be ignored either. Modern corporate Windows images are incredible in how much CPU and RAM they can waste even at idle.

dzhiurgis|5 years ago

It's probably shit metric as my two browsers open now use 10GB of RAM on MacOS, but Windows 10 requires 2-4x less minimum RAM to run when compared with latest Ubuntu...

JoeAltmaier|5 years ago

Well, any given holiday keeps workers from working. I don't value that as much as some folks. We all got a day off!

But it was certainly a wake-up call. And such a simple trick, to fool the world in a day.