This is actually an amazing project. I see they have an extensive list of devices already supported. People freely discuss on HN all the time about the security of private messaging between different people online and how corporations track and use this data against us as consumers, but it seems people are incapable of recognizing and discussing this maturely when in fact the same issues are present with teledildonics.
There's a number of very popular remote control devices on the market, and the security and privacy of users is paramount, especially when proprietary apps integrate audio and video and these things could be used for all sorts of reputational damage against consensual users, exactly for the same societal reasons people aren't taking this seriously.
Having free and open libraries and APIs for handling this stuff and free universal applications which take user security and privacy seriously is critical to the advancement of teledildonics in a way which is safe for the public and doesn't take advantage of consumers.
In VC pitch lingo, Buttplug is "Signal for remote control vibrators".
Thanks! So right now, on the Buttplug side, we're more FreePIE or Osculator. The library is made mostly for local side communication with hardware, think of it like an HID manager for VERY SPECIFIC types of human interface devices. :)
We'll be getting to online services though! I just did a big 4 part tutorial called "Teledildonics 101" on my youtube channel that covers some of this:
I'm a bit surprised how many hardware are supported: https://iostindex.com/?filter0Availability=Available,DIY . It's like a whole new world of names: estim machine, rabbit, bra vibrator, twerking butt deluxe, night howler, kinikat ... Even the Microsoft Xbox controller made the list.
There used to be a “purring kitty” app for the old Symbian Nokia phones that was very popular, there were even special cases made for those phones I wonder if there is one for an Xbox controller.
The scope of things that people, usually teenagers, use as a vibrator is surprisingly wide. It’s not uncommon for game controllers and phones to serve this purpose for those who can’t get a dedicated device.
The thing that comes to mind is the Harry Potter broom that vibrated to simulate flight, which had to be recalled after parents were outraged; although honestly I feel like everyone should’ve seen that coming.
I thought you might like to see this email that an earnest user sent us this evening. I got permission to share it anonymously:
So qdot handled this thread beautifully today. I don’t know who this person is but they managed to simply handle all questions, openly and without being rude. They spun gold from snark, they gave the childish a mature reply, and this post’s comments were a joy to read for how worthwhile they were.
I assume that the mods had some hand in this as well, because the chances of this ending this way without someone helping to ensure that seems near-zero to me. It’s not that I lack faith in HN, it’s just that human beings reliably go off course on this topic. And today, they didn’t.
Thanks for your efforts, whatever they were, and my hat is off to qdot for their stellar participation here today.
Since we didn't do anything, I'm signing our portion of this praise over to you. Bravo!
I have one more line of questions. I have, um, observed that "cam" sex workers use teledildonics as a kind of "proof of life". The idea is that paying customers send signals to a sex toy in use by the performer, whose reaction reassures the customer that he is paying for a live show. It affords a way of (apparently) "doing stuff" to the performer in spite of the virtualized nature of the show.
Two part question:
1. A sufficiently sophisticated operation could use canned footage to fake the apparent call and response here. Is there any current research in the direction of possible authentication methods to prevent such fakery?
2. What are we to make of the way this form of remote dominance (simulated or real) has been commodified and put in service of capital accumulation? Are not the paying customers even engaging in a form of self-domination, helping to reproduce their roles as wage slaves, by participating in this system of production?
How can tech employers use this technology to optimize workplaces for comfort and productivity?
Also, can teledildonics be applied to improve online shopping experiences and social media? I am thinking that buttplug scripts could be the new emojis or css dazzle.
Lastly, there seems to be some asymmetry in the development of these technologies: Passive reception of dildonic signals is emphasized, active transmission of signals that originate as muscle contractions (and such) gets the short shrift. Is this simply a reflection of the generally submissive tendencies of tech workers or is there a larger force at work here?
There have been numerous stories in the past of IoT sex toys basically being thrown together by people with no tech knowledge and leaving the passwords as defaults, etc. Makes hacking/stealing the data trivial and obviously problematic for the product and users.
I always imagined using a technology like this would feel really contrived. Like the number of dimensions of expression, or sensation you can impose on another person using it are so limited that it would almost feel kind of silly. The only thing you can really impact in a meaningful way seems to be timing. But good sexual experiences require so much more, pressure variation, directionality to name a few things. Can you comment?
Is there a public roadmap for the project? What aspects of the project currently have the most traction? Are there any plans to remove any existing parts of the project?
Porntoken.io has been up for several years with no problems.
Also porntoken was the first project to do teledildonics with the lovense toys through the Ethereum blockchain.
https://github.com/porntoken/EthereumDildoMonitor
We had a live model at the late Dennis Hoffs cathouse near Reno with a lovense in her vajayjay taking ETH porntoken ICO investments in her toy through the ethereum blockchain.
Porntoken is largely done now, but we had a damn good time making the movies we did.
I started watching the video of hooking the Trance Vibrator up to Rez Infinite but I got distracted by the intense wave of, well, pretty much ASMR that ran up my spine once I saw level 1 on the screen along with its music and now I guess I am spending a while playing that instead. I shall not say what I am doing with my second controller or hint a ways I may be enhancing the reach of its vibrations.
100% analyzation, 99.6% shotdown, 100% support item, one hit taken during Earth [Tera] - not bad for the first time picking it up in years I guess, especially on a dim projector with some intense Sensations and Emotions going through my head as I was dancing with the first level's boss.
I got my first copy back on the Dreamcast and PS2 and played the hell out of it. I wrote my first USB drivers for the Trancevibrator around 2005, also.
When Infinite came out I still played it quite a bit (outside of the context of making that video heh), and it was like riding a bicycle. A couple of minutes of getting used to it again and I was back to near 100% on everything. :D
When the Cult of the Dead Cow created Back Orifice, ostensibly a nicer Windows admin tool / Trojan horse, it had a plug-in system called Buttplugs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Orifice
In 2013 I imagined this industry as being the next big thing. Mixed with VR, Deepfake, and Voice changing tech, literally anyone could be anyone fucking anyone.
Thank you Buttplug, for getting us closer to that dream.
Never,ever,even in a million years would I have thought that such a thing exists. Judging by the number of supported models,seems to be pretty popular too.
I'm half-asleep and I've got to say reading that title made me do a double-take and sober up fast. Didn't expect to see something like this on Hacker News lol (but it is legit innovation / hacking! Seems there's a lot of work put into this.)
[+] [-] tristor|5 years ago|reply
There's a number of very popular remote control devices on the market, and the security and privacy of users is paramount, especially when proprietary apps integrate audio and video and these things could be used for all sorts of reputational damage against consensual users, exactly for the same societal reasons people aren't taking this seriously.
Having free and open libraries and APIs for handling this stuff and free universal applications which take user security and privacy seriously is critical to the advancement of teledildonics in a way which is safe for the public and doesn't take advantage of consumers.
In VC pitch lingo, Buttplug is "Signal for remote control vibrators".
[+] [-] qdot76367|5 years ago|reply
We'll be getting to online services though! I just did a big 4 part tutorial called "Teledildonics 101" on my youtube channel that covers some of this:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDZBOOe-bdwNAjm018ql9...
[+] [-] phkahler|5 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] qdot76367|5 years ago|reply
I'm still trying to find a bluetooth electric toothbrush with a controls API. Most of them just have timers. :(
[+] [-] dogma1138|5 years ago|reply
[+] [-] ashtonkem|5 years ago|reply
The thing that comes to mind is the Harry Potter broom that vibrated to simulate flight, which had to be recalled after parents were outraged; although honestly I feel like everyone should’ve seen that coming.
[+] [-] lykahb|5 years ago|reply
[+] [-] qdot76367|5 years ago|reply
[+] [-] dang|5 years ago|reply
So qdot handled this thread beautifully today. I don’t know who this person is but they managed to simply handle all questions, openly and without being rude. They spun gold from snark, they gave the childish a mature reply, and this post’s comments were a joy to read for how worthwhile they were.
I assume that the mods had some hand in this as well, because the chances of this ending this way without someone helping to ensure that seems near-zero to me. It’s not that I lack faith in HN, it’s just that human beings reliably go off course on this topic. And today, they didn’t.
Thanks for your efforts, whatever they were, and my hat is off to qdot for their stellar participation here today.
Since we didn't do anything, I'm signing our portion of this praise over to you. Bravo!
[+] [-] Thomas_Lord|5 years ago|reply
Two part question:
1. A sufficiently sophisticated operation could use canned footage to fake the apparent call and response here. Is there any current research in the direction of possible authentication methods to prevent such fakery?
2. What are we to make of the way this form of remote dominance (simulated or real) has been commodified and put in service of capital accumulation? Are not the paying customers even engaging in a form of self-domination, helping to reproduce their roles as wage slaves, by participating in this system of production?
[+] [-] Thomas_Lord|5 years ago|reply
Also, can teledildonics be applied to improve online shopping experiences and social media? I am thinking that buttplug scripts could be the new emojis or css dazzle.
Lastly, there seems to be some asymmetry in the development of these technologies: Passive reception of dildonic signals is emphasized, active transmission of signals that originate as muscle contractions (and such) gets the short shrift. Is this simply a reflection of the generally submissive tendencies of tech workers or is there a larger force at work here?
[+] [-] dgrin91|5 years ago|reply
What does project do to ensure security?
[+] [-] DonHopkins|5 years ago|reply
https://www3.citizenm.com/news/europe/rotterdam/the-rotterda...
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[+] [-] duud|5 years ago|reply
"No .IO domain may be used, directly or indirectly, for any purpose that is sexual or pornographic"
https://www.nic.io/rules.htm
[+] [-] cdnpal|5 years ago|reply
We had a live model at the late Dennis Hoffs cathouse near Reno with a lovense in her vajayjay taking ETH porntoken ICO investments in her toy through the ethereum blockchain.
Porntoken is largely done now, but we had a damn good time making the movies we did.
https://avn.com/movies/241591.html
All the movies on the website still work however.
[+] [-] qdot76367|5 years ago|reply
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23094632
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100% analyzation, 99.6% shotdown, 100% support item, one hit taken during Earth [Tera] - not bad for the first time picking it up in years I guess, especially on a dim projector with some intense Sensations and Emotions going through my head as I was dancing with the first level's boss.
[+] [-] qdot76367|5 years ago|reply
I got my first copy back on the Dreamcast and PS2 and played the hell out of it. I wrote my first USB drivers for the Trancevibrator around 2005, also.
When Infinite came out I still played it quite a bit (outside of the context of making that video heh), and it was like riding a bicycle. A couple of minutes of getting used to it again and I was back to near 100% on everything. :D
[+] [-] vermarish|5 years ago|reply
What a cheeky commit message. :)
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Thank you Buttplug, for getting us closer to that dream.
[+] [-] girst|5 years ago|reply
https://github.com/qdot/deldo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sXuHnf_lo
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"you'll get more pleasure when you make a commit that gets this test suite passing..."
Could be a great mechanism to encourage open source contributions ;)
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