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assblaster | 5 years ago

They said wearing masks does not help decrease infectious spread. They actually claimed that wearing masks can increase infectious spread because of improperly wearing it.

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Nursie|5 years ago

There is ongoing debate about this because the evidence shows only a small positive effect for wearing them, and mask wearing can change behaviour.

jansan|5 years ago

There has been masks around for more than 100 years to protect from infectious diseases. Why is this still an ongoing debate?

assblaster|5 years ago

There is no debate. Healthcare workers are invariably wearing masks around all patients, regardless of known COVID19 status.

It is simply irresponsible to claim that wearing masks offers only marginal benefit. This is a respiratory virus, it is transmitted by droplets.

The downvoting of this plain truth ought to scare anyone who values science over politics.

saiya-jin|5 years ago

> They said wearing masks does not help decrease infectious spread. They actually claimed that wearing masks can increase infectious spread because of improperly wearing it.

Can you please point to the studies claiming that masks significantly lower transmission rates? The only think I ever read was it lowers a bit the transmission FROM infected people by blocking some of the droplets sneezed/coughed, but just wearing them doesn't protect healthy people anyhow. Unless you have N95 + good glasses and perfect hygiene.

The behavior of 'I have a basic mask therefore I am protected' - I've seen it quite a few times personally. It really can lead to false feeling of security and lowering one's guard. I've seen folks wearing them incorrectly too, especially in the beginning - ie not over nose, huge gaps around it, putting it down in store for a call etc.

I think your statements are taken out of context of what was claimed. Not claiming WHO is perfect (far from it), but trump-ish bashing everybody and everything external instead of admitting one's utter failure and working on fixing things won't change much.

bkor|5 years ago

WHO said that masks are very helpful for Asia. Netherlands government also mention that the usefulness of masks is questionable at best. This despite that the masks obviously do help.

It seems that this was said because there's a huge shortage of masks. People starting hoarding them, plus stealing them from hospitals and so on.

So yeah, WHO did mention masks aren't super useful for the general public, but seems like the reason is mostly because to prevent people going crazy for masks.

The bit about people thinking their safe due to a bad mask is also mentioned by the Dutch government btw. And they decide for themselves, they do not just follow whatever WHO says.