[foob4r]

That's awesome and I've tried nextdns and loved it. But - and this is just me - I just don't trust anyone to delete my logs or not log in the first place.

That's why I'll probably not move off of my pihole

[altano]

You have to trust someone because at some point the DNS request is getting made. It sounds like you're just choosing to trust your ISP.

[badrabbit]

No you don't. If you use DoH or Dnscrypt over a VPN, the DNS provider can't associate the traffic with your IP (mitigating control of sorts).

[tubbs]

Is anyone aware of a VPN out there that supports PiHole-like list filtering, so you could get the best of both worlds?

Right now it feels like I have to choose:

- Use my PiHole to block all sorts of content on filtering lists that are useful in cases like blocking unwanted tracking in mobile apps, but my ISP knows everything I access

- Use a VPN, where my ISP doesn't know what I'm doing, but every web service I use can use whatever tracking it wants (except where uBlock is used and such, but you don't get that luxury with, say, Samsung Smart TVs which are notorious for phoning home)

[julyhaze]

The ISPs are going to log everything for sure. However I’d probably trust their incapability of putting data into <s>good/evil</s> use, comparing to professionals like google.

[foob4r]

No my upstream is Cloudflare. Weirdly, I trust them.

[loughnane]

I'm in the same boat with a pihole as my primary blocker, but I use NextDNS as an upstream resolver since they, of all the options, seem most likely to not log (presuming I configure it apprpriately)

[brokenmachine]

Do you trust your ISP? Because they are probably logging.

[nix23]

I trust my ISP (Swiss) much more, than any privately owned VPN-Company outside Switzerland or Iceland.