[thomspoon]

Let me be a little more explicit, software engineering is more than code. Software developers live, breathe, and puke software development. Software engineers, usually accredited, are systems engineers as well as software developers.

Software engineering is a relatively new field and segregates from computer science in the sense that software engineers typically are involved in interface design (electronic and software), architecture, documentation, and various other aspects of typical engineering. I feel like I’m being an ass but I find the use of the term “Software Engineer” in this case is erroneous. In the same way you wouldn’t consider someone who tinkers with an arduino an electrical engineer, I don’t think we can consider someone who knows full-Stack web development a software engineer.

[songzme]

> software engineering is more than code. Software developers live, breathe, and puke software development.

100% agree. Which is why its important that students are working together on projects so they can write specs, documentation, tests and structure code in a way that the next engineer can take over easily. Our weekly sprint planning helps facilitate that.

Take this PR for example, it has tests and went through 15+ comments and approved by 2 other students before it got merged in: https://github.com/garageScript/c0d3-app/pull/243

I think your are thinking of a curriculum that just teaches students how to code and then have them build side projects by themselves and show it off. And I agree, that is not software engineering, it is just code.