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entelechy | 5 years ago

ohh interesting! Are there any opensource implementations of homomorphic numerical processing?

Were there any efforts of combining both approaches?

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hedora|5 years ago

Note that most useful homomorphic numerical encryption schemes are easily breakable. Once you have equality you can usually de-anonymize user data. Many companies have been burnt by this.

With a less than operator and the ability to encrypt chosen plaintext values, you can decrypt arbitrary messages in a linear (in message size) number of steps.

Arithmetic operations can often be used to build gadgets that bootstrap comparison operations. For instance, with addition and equality you can implement a comparison operation for low-medium cardinality fields.

The field is littered with negative results that are being sold as secure, practical systems. Be careful when using them on important data.

rhindi|5 years ago

All FHE schemes today add tiny random noise to the ciphertext so that encrypting the same data twice give different results. The noise is then kept to a nominal level as you compute homomorphically using a special operation called bootstrapping. Then when you decrypt, you just ignore the noise and get your result. If you do that well and dont let the noise grow too big, you get very strong security.

Fwiw, bootstrapping is actually what makes FHE slow, not the actual addition/multiplication etc

bondarchuk|5 years ago

>and the ability to encrypt chosen plaintext values

Isn't this a big assumption? The way I envision it is

1. client encrypts data with their key

2. server computes on data without decrypting and without needing the key

3. client decrypts computation output with their key.

Or is it always required at step 2 that the server also has the key needed for encryption (but not decryption obviously)?

lumost|5 years ago

Is there a good standards body to refer to for progress on these alternate encryption methods?

Ar-Curunir|5 years ago

FHE schemes don’t allow comparing equality of plaintexts without decryption

ssmiler|5 years ago

Research paper https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/758 introduces an unified view for HE plaintext spaces. It allows switching between integral, approximate numbers and bit level representations (different HE schemes). But I'm not aware of a HE library implementing this. For the IDASH 2018 competition we have used 2 different libraries (TFHE and CKKS) in the same computation, although the scheme switching procedure was done manually.

rhindi|5 years ago

Yes, turns out you can convert ciphertexts from one scheme to another, so you can go back and forth between them depending on what type of computation you are trying to do. However the cost of transciphering is high, so in practice it doesn’t work well. But give it a few years and it’ll work!

bargle0|5 years ago

HEAAN and HEmat are two libraries for numerical processing that you can find on github. They’re not perfect, and require work to get in to shape for real distributed computation.

rhindi|5 years ago

I suggest looking at TFHE and SEAL for starters