[vturner]

Does anyone else find the studless beams and associated pieces much more difficult to build with than the old (very old as in Robotics Invention System) beams and pieces with studs? This was my second year coaching an FLL team. The kids seem to have difficulty building the things they need, and I don't blame them. One has to think in multiple dimensions at once. With the studs, you think vertically up or horizontal at once.

[dbcurtis]

The design grammar is different. But I find it easier, because you don’t have to deal with the 4-4-5 assymetrc geometry.

That said, finding the connector that re-orients holes the way you need can ne a challenge. I have a collection of all the technic connectors and spend a fair amount of time trying multiple prototypes.

So I guess overall it is much easier to get a robust structure, but it can take some time to get there.

[vturner]

The assymetric geometry brings back memories. Trying to tie a stack of bricks together with a "girder" vertical across connected with the pegs!

I guess there's upsides and down. I think what bugs me is each brick before was more variable. You could build a corner if you needed to. Agreed not nearly as structurally sound thoughm