top | item 23548629

(no title)

sfj | 5 years ago

I disagree with the premise of “victim blaming”. If we can't look at all sides of an issue for fear of being publicly shamed for going against a narrative, we'll end up with wrong conclusions a lot of the time.

I did acknowledge racism could also play a part, but I don't see how we are supposed to be able to accept that one can read the minds of those that affront him.

I also don't give a damn about the “monkey no like, hit 'you are bad' button” people seem to care about.

discuss

order

titzer|5 years ago

Well to honest your post was the textbook definition of victim blaming. It was hardly a "premise." With absolutely zero evidence you flat out accused them of wrong behavior (dressing wrong, acting wrong) instead of considering their situation on the facts they presented. That is victim blaming.

But now you try turn the tables around. Your feelings are so important. Painting yourself as the victim is the all-too-predictable next step in that logical chain. Congratulations on making this all about you.

Instead of being pissed off and trying to fire another salvo to get other people pissed off and concerned about you, you should try to listen to people instead. You came out of the gate with the over the top with "your lived experience is invalid, here is my completely context-free flat denial that anything is wrong, I don't want to hear what you are saying". This whole chain originated out of your lack of empathy, and here now we completely forgot about the people who are actually victimized.

sfj|5 years ago

> Well to honest your post was the textbook definition of victim blaming. It was hardly a "premise." With absolutely zero evidence you flat out accused them of wrong behavior (dressing wrong, acting wrong) instead of considering their situation on the facts they presented. That is victim blaming.

I didn't accuse, I simply asked a question. How are you so sure that it must be racism? Why are you trying to shame me for suggesting there might be another explanation?

> But now you try turn the tables around. Your feelings are so important. Painting yourself as the victim is the all-too-predictable next step in that logical chain. Congratulations on making this all about you.

When did I ever say anything about my feelings whatsoever? Can you at least quote me when you attribute motives?

> Instead of being pissed off and trying to fire another salvo to get other people pissed off and concerned about you, you should try to listen to people instead. You came out of the gate with the over the top with "your lived experience is invalid, here is my completely context-free flat denial that anything is wrong, I don't want to hear what you are saying". This whole chain originated out of your lack of empathy, and here now we completely forgot about the people who are actually victimized.

Empathy is not the same as agreeing with him as to what caused his situation. You are adding a lot of emotional context in what I say, which isn't present.

I'm just trying to get people to stop jumping to conclusions everytime that everyone is racist. Undoubtedly some people are, but you're immediately jumping to the conclusion that everyone is without evidence.

thosakwe|5 years ago

I wish you would put as much effort into listening and understanding other people's experiences as you do trying to find excuses for racism.

sfj|5 years ago

I wasn't “finding excuses for racism”. Just trying to determine if actually occured, or not.