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asjw | 5 years ago

There is no way that something that is not enforceable will succeed though.

Plus forgiveness works only on then forgiver side, nothing stop others to keep doing what they are doing after you forgave them.

I would argue that the main reason we get along is laws, not forgiveness.

Any society has written (laws) and unwritten (social rules) norms that regulate the interactions between members.

People don't yell in public, usually, because they've been taught it's wrong and people, generally, tend to respect what they've been taught on certain degrees, especially when it is easy to verify those teachings: nobody yells in public, those who do are reprimanded, it must really be a wrong thing to do.

If you forgive someone yelling at kids because their basketball ended up in their garden you could feel better, but are enabling bad behaviour that should be challenged instead.

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rnestler|5 years ago

> If you forgive someone yelling at kids because their basketball ended up in their garden you could feel better, but are enabling bad behaviour that should be challenged instead.

In the proposed solution of the article one would only forgive if the offending person did apologize. Probably after getting challenged or called out for what they posted.

So the comparison would be more that someone yelled at the kids, was called out for it and then apologized for their bad behaviour. Then they get forgiveness from the person calling them out.

brigandish|5 years ago

> Plus forgiveness works only on then forgiver side, nothing stop others to keep doing what they are doing after you forgave them.

This is the case outside of social media too. It's why forgiveness requires courage and sincerity, and not a little strength.

tomcooks|5 years ago

> People don't yell in public, usually

How do I know you're certainly not from Southern Europe?)

asjw|5 years ago

Unfortunately for you I am exactly from southern Europe, from Rome in Italy to be precise.

I think you should visit here, I would show you how much noise people from other countries make, especially Americans.

I'm sure you made it as a joke and I don't mind it, but this stereotypes must stop, for a simple reason: there is more to Europe than jokes about southerners.

We simply spend more time outside in the open because the weather is usually better, but any country has its weirdos, sometimes public is a park or an open market, sometimes it's a pub.

Swedes scream from their windows at night

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flogsta

Finns sweat a lot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_profanity

Danish leave their kids outside in the strollers in the cold while they are inside a caffè or buying groceries

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21537988

Germans wear sandals with socks

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socks_and_sandals

English are dunk and violent

https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/88/9/10-010910/en/

French are rude and the fact that they try to hide it behind "other people don't understand us" makes it even more obvious. Ironically they think the anglofones are the loud ones and I mostly agree on this with them.

And, of course, Americans are obese

https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2019/11/share-of-adults-d...