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popped | 5 years ago

Can someone explain what the motivation is behind running Darwin?

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dschuetz|5 years ago

It seems that they do it for fun and giggles, but all the users are interested in, ultimately, is "Can it run macOS software? No? Stop wasting my time."

zymhan|5 years ago

Well it can run macports!

ytch|5 years ago

For fun and research

kebman|5 years ago

Can we assume that the 'research' part will be of particular value to Apple, or am I wrong here?

lewisinc|5 years ago

Continuous integration servers that aren't run on genuine Apple hardware?

tannhaeuser|5 years ago

One can hope this will become eventually possible, but with the pace of PureDarwin as it is, I doubt it will before Apple migrates to ARM with custom instruction set additions.

perardi|5 years ago

Wouldn't you have to reverse-engineer and implement a LOT of closed-source APIs and libraries to get a full iOS toolchain going?

saagarjha|5 years ago

Perhaps if you package your code for MacPorts.

nightowl_games|5 years ago

Using this for that would probably break terms of service just as much as a hackintosh would.

popped|5 years ago

I'm struggling to understand HN these days. This is being downvoted, and IMHO is the key question to ask the folk putting in the effort.

Would love a downvoter to give a hint...

dang|5 years ago

The biggest factor is randomness, which can't be understood in that way. People frequently imagine stories about why HN is "doing" this or that, but that's a category error, since HN is a statistical cloud. Randomness plus cognitive bias equals narrative, etc.

You'll notice that your GP comment is now upvoted while this one is downvoted. That's common, because unfairly downvoted comments frequently get corrective upvotes from users who come along and see that the comment is fine: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Meanwhile, complaints like this one break the site guidelines (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html at the bottom!) and usually end up being false as well.

hideout_berlin|5 years ago

just because it doesn't suit you it doesn't have to be done badly a little understanding for other projects thank you lg from berlin

oscargrouch|5 years ago

Not a downvoter but you have reached into one of those unwritten rules:

You shall not criticize Apple, Rust and Elon Musk.

HN is super cool for any other topics, except when there's some sort of tech cult involved in it.